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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.


Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
June 10 1
June 12 1
June 14 2
June 18 1 1
June 22 1 1
June 23 1
July 4 3
July 5 1 1
July 9 1 1
July 10 2 1
July 11 1
July 12 1
July 14 1
July 16 1
July 17 2
July 18 1
July 19 1
July 21 2 1
July 22 2 1
July 23 6 2
July 24 4 2
July 25 7 4
July 26 3
July 27 8 1
July 28 5 1
July 29 4 1
July 30 6
July 31 4
August 1 8 1
August 2 5 1
August 3 6 5
August 4 8 3
August 5 10 4
August 6 10 3
August 7 8 2
August 8 7 1
August 9 8 1
August 10 4 4
August 11 4 2
August 12 9 6
August 13 6 1
August 14 6 3
August 15 7 1
August 16 7 1
August 17 1
Total 187 57
Last updated 06:39, 17 August 2017 UTC
Current time is 08:02, 17 August 2017 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began, not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed to help in tracking removals.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]

Catholic University of Madagascar

Created by Jgefd (talk). Self-nominated at 22:30, 11 June 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article itself looks good. Plenty of content, created recently, and has adequate sources (although they're all in French, so I can't verify their reliability.) A few small concerns, though: A couple of the sources come from material published by the university itself. Also, the nominator hasn't done QPQ. Otherwise, this looks pretty good. --XenonNSMB (talk, contribs) 01:37, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Hello, sorry it seems I responded on your talk page rather than the nomination. I completed QPQ a while ago now. Is the rest good? Jgefd (talk) 16:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It has been over six weeks without a response, though a QPQ did appear on June 16. Jgefd, if you wish to pursue this nomination, please respond on this page to the concerns mentioned. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • BlueMoonset: Again, I apologize but I responded on the reviewer's talk page as I wasn't sure he would see my response here. So the concerns are a couple self-published sources and French-language sources? Well, regarding the sources in French, I translated them with google translate but the sources I used were Malagasy newspapers and another was by an educational organization providing information on colleges in Madagascar. Several others came from French universities with academic partnerships with the university. Regarding the self-published source, I used the university website as a source for the history section. Although it wasn't optimal, there aren't as many good sources for Malagasy institutions as there are in the US. Jgefd (talk) 16:42, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to complete the review; previous reviewer has not returned. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:48, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Symbol question.svgReviewed.Summary: The article is recent is above 1500 characters hook is hook but the article itself will need a lot of work with sourcing as most of it is from content published by university itself


  1. Size
  2. QPQ(Not really needed as credits are <5)
  3. Recent at time of nom
  4. Hook is <200
  5. Hook is hooky

Not done

  1. Most of the article seems to be sourced from content published by university itself .Third party reliable sources are needed._RADICAL SODA(FORCE) 10:28, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Forceradical: I've found all the sources that are out there, and I also don't speak French so I can't really do much more at this point. If you want to reject it for DYK at this point go ahead Jgefd (talk) 18:51, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]

Dolly Rudeman

Created by Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (talk) at 13:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Looks fine for now, a bit of hook tweaking might be good (in the field at the time, movie to film, etc), otherwise it's new and long enough and I can take the offline/foreign-lang sources in good faith. Waiting for QPQ. Cheers! Kingoflettuce (talk) 11:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
@Kingoflettuce: Done QPQ. Nice one! — O Fortuna semper crescis, aut decrescis 12:42, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
  • My name is Drmies and I endorse this DYK nomination. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Mmhm, on a more serious note I think some work still needs to be done. You have uncited quotations from newspapers (second-to-last para) and again, assuming good faith, but I hope the citation for the last para covers all the content therein (since that's the ONLY citation). Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:08, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Kingoflettuce, I referenced that one claim and will go over the rest. Yes, that last paragraph is sourced entirely to her bio. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I edited and reorganized the article, and added an infobox. I also added some clarification-needed tags. The article is neutrally written, and there is no close paraphrasing from the online English sources. The hook is referenced to a foreign-language source and is AGF and cited inline. However, the article is an orphan; please link it to some other Wikipedia pages so it won't be tagged. It would be nice to add an image of Rudeman or one of her posters. Yoninah (talk) 21:29, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Glad you didn't find anything against DYK rule, anyway. Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 08:11, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Drive-by comment: Added mentions of Dolly Rudeman to two articles, so no longer an orphan. Would any posters be off copyright? Might depend on whether copyright was held by the movie studio, or by Rudeman. If the latter, Danish law provides for life + 70 years, which would be 2050. --Usernameunique (talk) 02:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I've got a reprint of her Potemkin: what if the photo was deliberately low quality? That is, clearly a photo of the thing rather than a replica of it? — fortunavelut luna 04:50, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Thank you for linking the article to other pages. However, the "citation needed" tags are still there for her birthplace and death place. The [Dutch Wikipedia page] lists her full birth and death dates, and birthplace, but this is not sourced. Is anything happening with an image? Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 14 August 2017 (UTC) jxxjxduduiidididdidididiididididididddioeoee

Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]


Allocyclosa bifurca (female)
Allocyclosa bifurca (female)

5x expanded by Sesamehoneytart (talk). Self-nominated at 18:09, 14 June 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg This article is a stub and does not contain the hook fact. The hook does not actually make any sense (species aren't male or female) and you have misinterpretted what the source says (even aside from the "species"/"specimen" mix-up). It is not making the claim that only 350 specimens of Allocyclosa bifurca have been identified. I recommend that you expand the article further and propose a new hook. Josh Milburn (talk) 01:13, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
  • I agree with your opinion about the hook. I updated it to be a bit more clear about what it is trying to say, but the article itself meets the length requirement for the category I submitted it under. The hook is in the source provided in the third bullet point under the section labeled "Remarks" (this is paraphrasing Levi's publication) Sesamehoneytart 02:12, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Ok, I've copyedited the hook a little, so I'm happy that that problem is resolved. I am concerned that the article remains very short (it's right on the minimum line, but no one is of the view that all articles that toe the line are long enough- that's explicitly written into the criteria). Perhaps you could include some information about distribution/habitat, and I think it would be helpful to split the article into a few short sections; a lead, a taxonomy section, a description and a habitat/range might do the job. While you're doing this, it'd be great if you could fix the two problems I have identified in the article itself. I also note that the current image lacks licensing info; perhaps you could forward the information you have to an OTRS address, as explained at Commons:COM:OTRS. Josh Milburn (talk) 02:34, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Josh Milburn, Sesamehoneytart addressed one of the problems, the sourcing issue, and also reworded that sentence; is it to your satisfaction? Also, the image is now in OTRS, so it should be okay for DYK use. However, the "clarification needed" tag is still there, and the stub template remains as well; I agree that it's a problem that the entire article is a single paragraph. I'm also concerned about the description of the females as 30% larger than the males, given the subsequent text putting the males at 2mm to 3mm and the females at 5mm to 9mm; the females would be twice to three times as long, and probably even more that in terms of volume or mass, so there's a significant factual problem here, and the source is not online so I couldn't check it. Sesamehoneytart has not edited on Wikipedia since early July (and it's the only edit after adding the source on June 15). This has been sitting for nearly two months; it would be nice to get this wrapped up. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:30, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Feel free to drop this if it isn't sufficient. There is very little more I can add to the article at present without making it sound overly scientific. The size is an interesting issue, and when I have more time, I'll have to look back through the sources to make sure I got that correct. The NMBE has links to many of the references here if it helps. Sesamehoneytart 17:17, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • The article has improved, but I second BlueMoonset's worries. In particular, the article does look very short for a DYK article; maybe I'd be less worried about this if it had been split into sections with a short lead. If the author is happy to have this removed from the queue, that may be the best option. 19:04, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Camino Island

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 00:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is newly created, written neutrally and clocks at 1502 characters, so it's long enough. Image is properly licensed and used in the article. Hooks are cited inline and verified. QPQ has been attended to. Preference to ALT1. Bluesphere 07:29, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
  • It's the most interesting to me. Bluesphere 04:00, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg YMMV. Actually, I prefer ALT0. The ALT0 hook ref is verified and cited inline. Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol possible vote.svg Returning to prep per discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 6 - Camino Island. The article has an tagged empty section, and on second look, is quite short on facts per WP:DYKSG#D7. Yoninah (talk) 20:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

  • TonyTheTiger, the second message was due to the hook having just been pulled from prep, but not yet having had its DYK template restored to the Approved page; it was re-added to that page shortly thereafter, and is there now.
Note that I was about to call for a new reviewer, but a check of the article resulted in the removal of a review quote that made no sense in context, and a place where the source given did not support the sentence in question—the facts are different in the source from in the article. I have also struck ALT1, since the "rare departure" statement is not supported by the source, and the article only says that it's a "departure" (the source uses "vacation"). A bit more work needs to be done for the article to be accurate; also, as Yoninah noted a month ago, the article is "short on facts per WP:DYKSG#D7", and more substance is still needed. Once these are addressed, I'll be happy to call for that new reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  • TonyTheTiger, have you actually taken a look at Grisham's bibliography? This is far from his first "departure"—he writes books that aren't legal thrillers every few years—so as a hook it's misleading (doesn't really "mark" a departure) and not all that interesting. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 23[edit]

Embassy of Japan, Seoul

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 03:11, 23 June 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New and long enuf (barely), but I have a small gripe with the hook -- where's the bit on "downright ransacking"? Also a car is not a truck. Kingoflettuce (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
  • @Piotrus:@Kingoflettuce: The quote about ransacking looks like it checks out. If we said "vehicle-ramming" instead would that be better? ♠PMC(talk) 21:55, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Using "vehicle-ramming" would certainly be better than "car-ramming" if it was a truck that did the ramming; while cars and trucks are both [motor] vehicles, a truck is not a car nor is a car a truck. Of course, the more specific "truck-ramming" could also be used, and sounds far more alarming than with a car. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
ALT1: "... that the Japanese embassy in Seoul has seen decades of protests, from weekly demonstrations to incidents involving Molotov cocktails, truck-ramming, self-immolation and outright ransacking?" --Usernameunique (talk) 21:42, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 4[edit]

Stop Child Abuse

  • ... that everybody can help solve cases of child abuse by identifying items from chil porn footage on Stop Child Abuse? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by Kmwebber (talk). Nominated by Lisa vom Land (talk) at 10:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article needs to be expanded (currently about 1100 characters). In addition, the hook should be a verifiable fact about the program such as "...that Stop Child Abuse - Trace an Object has helped to solve X number of child abuse cases since its formation" (with a reliable source). Currently it reads as an advertisement, which is not what Did You Know is meant for (though this is probably a good cause!). Please consider reevaluating and updating the article. Malinaccier (talk) 03:38, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
  • It looks like the nominator, Lisa vom Land, did not actually contribute to the article (which is perfectly fine at DYK); the primary author was Kmwebber, and Markworthen edited it at Articles for Creation. Right now, the article is at 1198 prose characters and needs to be expanded to a minimum of 1500 prose characters in order to qualify for DYK's size requirements. If there is no one willing to expand the article and come up with a suitable hook, then this will not be able to proceed. If anyone is willing to work further on the article and/or this nomination, please let us know soon. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:47, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I am flattered I suppose that someone nominated this for a DYK but for the time being the program itself is so new that there is not a lot (if any) reliable data about these sorts of things. I hope that it does not read like an advertisement too much, as that was not my intention, but I do not intend at this time to expand the article to appropriate length. All the best to you, I know everyone that works at the DYK section works very diligently and I appreciate that. Kmwebber (talk) 18:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)Kmwebber
  • I added a little more information (diff) and a couple of references. I also wrote to Europol to see if they would want to attach a free license to one or more of their images so we can add a relevant image to the article (it might help them get the word out too if it's easy for media outlets to use such images). I asked a question about my request to Europol on Wikimedia Commons, Village Pump.   - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) 05:07, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you so much! I hope everybody is aware that showing this on wikipedia's mainpage could make a real difference for crime victimes in the real world. You have a powerful tool as thousands of people might get involved. -- Lisa vom Land (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 11[edit]

Theater Chemnitz

Opera house in Chemnitz
Opera house in Chemnitz
  • Reviewed: Guangming Daily (China)
  • Comment: This article is new, but some content of a former stub on the opera house was merged in.

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:29, 18 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the image is appropriately licensed, the article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. The only problem is the two paragraphs with no citations. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:00, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
  • The typical things the official website will have. I am on vacation, please be patient. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 12[edit]

Urban Jungle

  • ... that in the Croatian driving game Urban Jungle, the player has to obey traffic laws? Source: [2] "URBAN JUNGLE je cestovna prometna simulacija u kojoj važe prometna pravila" - English: "URBAN JUNGLE is a road traffic simulation with traffic rules."

Moved to mainspace by Daß Wölf (talk). Self-nominated at 03:06, 15 July 2017 (UTC).

Coin945 DYK review:

  • New: The article fails on this criteria. Article moved from User:Daß Wölf/sandbox/Urban Jungle on July 12, 2017, and the pre-July 12th version to the current version is not a 5* prose increase.Symbol question.svg
  • QPQ: Yet to be completed. Symbol question.svg

Until these criteria are fixed, I am unable to complete with the review. However I will comment on the other criteria below:

  • The article is on a fascinating subject. I am happy that I have discovered this game thanks to your work.
  • On a cursory glance, the sourcing appears to be sufficient. I am unfamiliar with these non-English sources but they appear to be reliable.
  • The Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool came up with a violation likelihood of 0.0%!!
  • Hook is fine, and supported by the source.

Good luck with getting the article eligible. :D--Coin945 (talk) 05:11, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

    • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Actually Coin, it does say on the criteria that anything worked on in userspaces only counts from the date when it is transferred into the mainspace where it is counted as new for DYK purposes. Therefore it is eligible on that count. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:14, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree with you there (regarding userpage transfers). However, though the article was moved into userspace in-between, I believe we should count both times the article was in the mainspace (before and after it was userfied. Prior to userfication it looked like this, and now a year later back in the mainspace it looks like this, not 5* longer. And the rules state that the current version needs to be 5* the length of the previous version. That's my interpretation of the rules anyway. Is this incorrect?--Coin945 (talk) 17:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Actually, the article was PRODded and deleted. I asked the deleting admin to userfy it to see if I could use some of the old text, but it was too fluffy and advertorial, so I got rid of it entirely here. So, if it counts for anything, I would've written the same text had I not asked for the undeletion of the old article. DaßWölf 17:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
We seem to be dismissing one of the basic requirements here. The hook is not interesting -- almost boring. It's like saying the player has to drive safely. Isn't there anything else that can be said about the game that's more interesting? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 03:22, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
@Gwillhickers: Do you know any other computer games where the player has a time limit and has to drive a car safely? DaßWölf 19:59, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Even if this was the only game with a time limit and driving rules, the hook is still not very interesting, even if I liked driving games from Croatia.
See Eligibility criteria: "The hook should include a definite fact that is mentioned in the article and interesting to a broad audience." -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Pinging earlier reviewers Coin945 and The C of E to see what they think about this. (Also, I've done the QPQ, sorry for the delay guys). DaßWölf 15:09, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Perhaps a slight wording change would help make the original hook more interesting:
Alternatively, a different topic could be found. I was wondering about the victor of an Urban Jungle tournament winning free driving lessons, though I've been struggling with potential wordings. Here's one attempt:
Other possibilities include the features regarding receiving insurance payments for being hit by non-player cars, buying a game car with a loan, and sight-seeing as a pedestrian. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 14[edit]

Marcus Bosch

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg This is my first review, so any feedback is welcomed. Cheers, FriyMan Per aspera ad astra 16:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for looking closely! Please delete all internal comments about doing a review: no need to carry them along, but leave the bottom line comment ;) - Sorry that I missed the para when finding refs for what the German Wikipedia says. I added a ref for Osnabrück (external link so far), and duplicated one for the other three places. I dropped Dortmund, could find a source only for one concert there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 16[edit]

Emma Rogan

  • ... that the 1994 murder of the father of Irish politician Emma Rogan is the subject of an unreleased documentary film by American director Alex Gibney? Hook sources: 1/ Emma the daughter of massacre victim [5][6]; 2/ film explained in 2016 [7]; 3/ film withdrawn in 2017 [8]

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self-nominated at 14:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC).

  • The hook could fit an extra "in a pub", & so use a pic, but the pic needs to be in the article first. Johnbod (talk) 02:06, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  • @BrownHairedGirl: New, long enough, consistently cited, QPQ done. I'd suggest changing the hook though, as the unreleased documentary is perhaps not the most interesting part of Rogan of her father's murder. How about:
ALT1: ... that after the father of Irish politician Emma Rogan was murdered in a pub (pictured), police conspired with the gunmen to hide their identities?
The Heights Bar
The Heights Bar
Comment: here we have an article about a woman who accomplished great things, and all we say is the death of her father? I'm ready to review if you come up with a hook about her. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I agree with you in principle, although it largely depends on how one views the point of a hook: to educate about a particular person or thing in and of itself, or to draw people in to read the full article. Especially with Rogan, who has been in office only since June (and for whom the article primarily talks about a) her father, and b) her involvement in seeking justice for his death), ALT1 is far hookier than, say, "... that Irish politician Emma Rogan's initial priorities include protecting services in Downe Hospital?" In parallel, a hook about Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, were it to have been written immediately after he gained political power, would probably have been much more interesting were it to have focused on his mother rather than himself. But please let me know if you disagree and we'll go from there. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:52, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
It could be phrased in a way that we don't have "the murder of the father of" and then finally her. Something like: ... that she welcomed the documentary ... - letting her be active. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Good call. Here are some alternatives:
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed, since original review (sans icon) was done by Usernameunique, who has proposed all of the ALT hooks. Also pinging BrownHairedGirl, in case she has strong feelings about any of the ALT hooks, or wishes to propose others. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 17[edit]

Serious Hazards of Transfusion

  • Reviewed: Superfest International Disability Film Festival
  • Comment: I'm trying to make the hook sound "hooky", although the organization is actually kind of boring. They collect and analyze data about problems with blood transfusions. Their main results are kind of boring (infections are rare, the biggest problems are human errors, etc.), but one result was determining that (mostly) plasma donations from previously pregnant people were more likely to trigger a life-threatening medical condition (TRALI). Their proposal: Don't use plasma as much from women (and do extra testing on plasma donations from women, if you do need to use it). Practical result: Fewer cases of TRALI, and therefore fewer deaths.

Converted from a redirect by TransfusionDoctor (talk) and WhatamIdoing (talk). Nominated by WhatamIdoing (talk) at 18:52, 21 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Analysis: Length of article is >1500 characters. Nominated on July 21st 2017; must have expanded x5 from July 17th 2017. Current length = 4452 characters. Was a redirect on July 17th. Length of both hooks are appropriate (<200 characters). Proposed hook is not factual; the hook implies that SHOT currently discourages hospitals from using some blood products donated by women, whereas the following quote from the article specifies a previous recommendation: "SHOT recommended in the 2000/2001 report (Love et al, 2002) that exclusion of female donors be considered in relation to the plasma used to suspend pooled platelet concentrates" [emphasis in bold] (Bolton-Maggs PHB and Cohen H, Br J Haematol, 163: 303–314). The hook itself is an interesting one, though it paints the organization in a poor light out of context, which might violate WP:Neutral. Per the Earwig's Copvio detector report, 3.8% for https://www.shotuk.org/, though the text was copied directly from the source without attribution.
Length Newness Cited hook Interest Sources Neutrality Plagiarism/paraphrase
QPQ checks out.
Recommendations: I prefer ALT1, because it fixes the NPOV (clarifies why it discouraged hospitals from generating FFP from women) and the factual ("saved lives," past tense, rather than "saves lives") requirement. Clean the article up of any close paraphrasing/plagiarism. I am a new reviewer, so I would also welcome second opinions. (: ―Biochemistry🙴 20:47, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Their recommendation is current. In fact, it now seems to be standard practice (in developed countries); this is a US news story from last year about it. The problem is that female donors – specifically, previously pregnant people – have an increased incidence of some cross-reactive immune responses, which can cause TRALI (and therefore death). The options are (1) exclude women, (2) expensively test all female plasma donors, and throw away any donations that have this immune response [and re-test those donors every time they get pregnant], or (3) accept that a small number of people are going to die because you don't want to say something that sounds so rude as "no women for this particular blood component".
  • The line you're looking for in Earwig's tool is the one in the big green box that says "Violation Unlikely". It's giving you an odds of just 3.8% that this page is a copyvio (and a 96.2% changes that the page is NOT a copyvio). The "matching" (highlighted) phrases it found aren't really optional. For example, the whole point of the organization is collecting "information on adverse events", so it's natural that multiple sources contain those same four words. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:54, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Whether or not the recommendation is current, it must be cited within the article. It is this citation that is used to verify the claim of your proposed hook. I'm familiar with how Earwig's tool works. What I was pointing out was that, despite the low odds, there is close paraphrasing and direct quoting without attribution in the article. See below (direct quotes in bold):

SHOT and the MHRA are working closely together to improve and facilitate haemovigilance reporting.

— Source

SHOT and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) work closely together to improve and facilitate hemovigilance reporting in the UK.

— Article
I don't believe that this was written purely by "chance." Whether or not using the text is "optional" is irrelevant. If you need to use them, that's fine--just quote and cite them. I stand by my original review. ―Biochemistry🙴 01:40, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you explain what "it must be cited" means, as an objection to material that is, in fact, followed by a little blue clicky number that leads to a full bibliographic citation to a reliable source? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:13, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Press Ctrl F, type the sentence I've been referring you to: "SHOT and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) work together to support hemovigilance reporting in the UK.", and look for an aforementioned little blue clicky number. It's not cited, and it has been taken near verbatim from the source I've cited above (shotuk.org). Third paragraph break in the lead.―Biochemistry🙴 15:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Oops; it looks like I copy/pasted the newly edited sentence from the article! The sentence that I'd like to see cited is the one that you edited because "someone thinks it is close paraphrasing." (; Edit or not, it'd probably be best to cite it. As for the hook itself, you mentioned that the recommendation was reasonably current (per this, which is dated June 2016, which I agree is reasonably current), but you have not cited the line in the article with anything more than Bolton-Maggs PHB and Cohen H, Br J Haematol, 163: 303–314, which supports a recommendation around 2000/2001, but not a recent recommendation. It may even be best to reflect the timeline of the recommendation in the article (...as of [date]...), since the militaryblood.dod.mil article seems to suggest that the recommendation has been overturned with the advent of routine HLA-Ab testing, and the article seems to reflect the idea that the recommendation is still current.―Biochemistry🙴 15:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I think we can safely assume that the United States Department of Defense does not have much of a connection to the United Kingdom's regulatory groups. But you might note that the word in the hook is "discouraged" rather than "banned", and the reason I proposed that wording is because it's not an outright ban. However, given a choice between "do expensive testing" and "just use some man's plasma", I think you can guess what cash-strapped hospitals' first choice is. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm not disputing the strength of SHOT's warning; rather, its date of origin. I think it would be most accurate, given the source cited in the article (Bolton-Maggs and Cohen, 2013), to simply change the wording to reflect past tense; i.e. in ALT0, change "discourages" to "discouraged." That would better reflect the use of a reference citing a 2000/2001 SHOT report. If it's current, cite something that reflects that in the article. I would still like if the 3rd paragraph in the lead was cited (given that it reflects close paraphrasing and is not a summary of the article content below it; the MHRA is not even mentioned elsewhere in the article).―Biochemistry🙴 23:53, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Do you think that 'the 3rd paragraph' still reflects close paraphrasing? Or are you still talking about the version that is no longer in the article? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:42, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
The current version. See the below comparison (direct quotes in bold):

SHOT and the MHRA are working closely together to improve and facilitate haemovigilance reporting.

— Source

"SHOT and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) work together to support hemovigilance reporting in the UK."

— Article
Despite the rewording, it's still pretty clear that this sentence was taken from the source I found. It should be cited as such--unless I'm to believe that it was a coincidence that the original wording had so much overlap. There's still a lot of overlap between them, and even if you completely reworded the sentence, you'd still need to cite it. Again, it may be in the lead section, but it clearly doesn't represent a summary of the article content below it; the MHRA is not even mentioned elsewhere in the article. ―Biochemistry🙴 21:33, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Priya Jhingan

Created by Fitindia (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough, but has some punctuation and source issues that need to be addressed.
  • The sources cited are appropriate to the page as a whole, but the inline citations do not refer to the correct sources. For example, source #7 should be cited where source #1 is in the body of the article.
  • Some information is not reflected in the sources. None say she is an English teacher, where she lives, or that she has a son.
  • This is not a criterion for DYK, but there are missing periods and commas, as well as a comma where there should be a period (at "... Sikkim Express in Gangtok, In 2013..."). It could use some copy-editing before being featured on the front page. MidwestCuttlefish (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@MidwestCuttlefish: have tried to address the issues brought up. Please do have a look. Thank you  FITINDIA  11:23, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 18[edit]

Plastic colorant

Created by Kku (talk) and FriyMan (talk). Nominated by FriyMan (talk) at 19:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - Source contains the fact, but questionable if reliable.
  • Interesting: Red XN - ALT0 doesn't go beyond the definition. ALT1 is interesting.
  • Other problems: Red XN - Typo in ALT0: "dies" should be "dyes." I suggest rewording ALT1 to "... that the type of plastic colorant used in manufacturing plastics depends upon the plastic being colored?"
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Summary: Sourcing problems and typo in ALT0. ALT1 is preferred (with modification). The page could use some work on its prose, including fixing the cite note spacing and cleaning up comma problems.

Analysis: Claim of creation on July 18th, nominated July 18th. Article was created on the 18th, which is within 7 days of the nomination. Length >1500 bytes, start class. Not previously nominated for DYK. "Examples" table is unsourced. Wikipedia is not a WP:RS. Neutral tone. Per Earwig's Copyvio Detector, 6.5% for source with some direct quotes of listed material, cited as paraphrasing within the article. Because it's a list, I'd say it's okay. ALT0 found in slide 2 of cited source, ALT1 uncited. The cited source is a slideshow purportedly from Royce Plastic International, posted by an account name of "Royceintly" on Slideshare.net. While I'm inclined to believe that this account has some connection to the company, I'm hesitant to call a random slide presentation a WP:RS. Another source for ALT0 would be preferred. "Dyes" is misspelled in ALT0. ALT0 isn't particularly interesting; the definition of "colorants" includes "dyes" and "pigments." ALT1 is worded a little weirdly. I suggest rewording ALT1, as shown above. ALT1 is preferred. Please include a source for ALT1's material. No pictures. No DYK credits, so QPQ unnecessary. ―Biochemistry🙴 23:27, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 19[edit]

Kelly Starrett, Juliet Starrett

  • ... that Juliet Starrett, a world whitewater rafting champion, and her husband Kelly Starrett, a national whitewater champion, co-founded one of the world's first CrossFit gyms? Source 1: "She raced for the national women's extreme whitewater team for five years, even winning two world championships", Source 2: "Starrett competed around the globe, paddling in more than a hundred class-V rapids, and won two national championships on the U.S. team....Soon after, he and Juliet opened one of the nation’s first CrossFit boxes.")

Created by Malinaccier (talk). Self-nominated at 07:17, 19 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Both articles are new enough, long enough, adequately referenced, neutrally written, and no close paraphrasing seen. However, a few points about the article organization: I moved all the uncontroversial cites out of the lead in Kelly Starrett; please do the same in Juliet Starrett. Both articles read a little like press releases rather than encyclopedic biographies. Can you add any "Early life" information about their birthdates, birthplaces, parents, etc.? Do you know Juliet's maiden name? Both articles need infoboxes as well, and an image would be nice.
  • The hook refs are verified and cited inline. I tightened the hook.
  • It appears that you do not have any DYK credits, so your QPQ is not necessary, but it's appreciated. After you have 5 DYKs under your belt, when you nominate two articles, you'll need to submit two QPQs. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:16, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Thanks for the review. I have added infoboxes and birth dates. I am working on finding sources for early life biographical information (there is some information on their children, etc.). I have not been able to find any free pictures online. Other than the lack of early life information is there anything else that you think could be changed to make it read more like a biography? Malinaccier (talk) 16:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 21[edit]

Samuel Atta Akyea

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 13:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 22[edit]

Donald Trump's handshakes

Donald Trump handshake with Emmanuel Macron
Donald Trump handshake with Emmanuel Macron

Created by Onceinawhile (talk) and Sagecandor (talk). Nominated by Onceinawhile (talk) at 08:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:54, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. However, I am confused by the article organization. The lead starts out fine but then, in sentences 2 through 7, zeroes in on the handshake with Macron, a discussion which should appear under the "Notable handshakes" section but doesn't. The third paragraph of the lead could be connected to the first line, perhaps with a transitional sentence, to make an adequate lead. Then, the sections "Explanation given by Donald Trump", "Reactions", and "Analysis" are all referring to the Macron handshake again, which makes me think that these should be sub-sections under "Handshake with Emanuel Macron". All images in article are freely licensed. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 00:19, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 23[edit]

Two Songs for Voice, Viola and Piano

Joseph and Amalie Joachim
Joseph and Amalie Joachim
  • Reviewed: Clementina Anstruther-Thomson
  • Comment: no room probably for the difference in composition time and occasion, for wedding and unsuccessful marriage repair

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:50, 25 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svgArticle (1) length and (2) age okay, properly sourced with inline citations. (3) Hook is mentioned and is cited within the article. (4) Article is within policy. (5) QPQ done. However I think that the "unsuccessful marriage repair" might be more interesting for a hook, and I have proposed an ALT1 above. Kbseah (talk) 11:02, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the review and the offer, but I am afraid that the image doesn't fit that hook (by 20 years). I plan to write an article on the lady (actually today), perhaps I will use the idea then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Amalie Joachim, a start --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
The new article looks good! Will you add the info about the Two Songs there and submit a DYK nomination for it, too? Kbseah (talk) 08:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Probably. I usually nominate a week after creation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Tara Rani Srivastava

Created by Fitindia (talk). Self-nominated at 11:56, 25 July 2017 (UTC).

Thirteenth Doctor

Created by AlexTheWhovian (talk) and Sceptre (talk). Nominated by Sceptre (talk) at 11:33, 23 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Comment: I'd definitely suggest the first alternate proposal, as the initial proposal doesn't take into account the non-"canonicity" of the other two actors. -- AlexTW

Single cell epigenomics

Created by Kierano (talk). Self-nominated at 16:47, 23 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts have inline citations and either hook could be used, the article is neutral and contains no copyright violations that I can detect. Some of the text is identical to that used on YouTube, but the latter seems to be copying the Wikipedia article. One of the DYK rules is that there must be at least one citation per paragraph, so can you add a few more? Otherwise good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 24[edit]

Gerhild Romberger

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:57, 31 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg the article is long enough, is neutral, contains no close paraphrasing or copyvio (2%), the hook is neutral, short enough, interesting (actually I do not understand 2 points: "in his" but Beethoven is not cited before (the festival is...) and "in Eberbach Abbey" is a place but there is a festival/an event? isn't it better to cite the event?), is properly sourced with an inline source citation, the article itself is adequately sourced and written in adequate English --Elisa.rolle (talk) 00:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the fine review! How would you avoid a repetition of the name Beethoven which still says that it is a performance not anywhere but at the festival dedicated to him? If we say "the Ninth" it could be Bruckner's or Mahler's. I didn't want to mention two festivals in one hook about a singer (to avoid sounding promotional), - we could add "for the Rheingau Musik Festival", of course, but I'd like to keep it short, and I'd like to mention the place that many people know who have nothing to do with music but remember that the interior scenes of The Name of the Rose (film) were taken there. People who know the (ongoing) festival will know the place where it always begins and ends, and people who don't will not be attracted more by mentioning it. Look at the festival if you like: I took several of the images ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
ps: I usually watch my nominations. A notice on my talk is only needed when I don't react for days, - I revert templated messages, to not archive them, - you can spare us that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Over-the-counter counseling

  • ... that pharmacists sometimes "QuEST" during over-the-counter counseling? Source: "OTC product consultations between pharmacists and patients take place in various settings throughout the pharmacy: the drive-through window, the register, the OTC aisle, the consultation room, or the telephone...The QuEST process offers the pharmacist a quick guideline for assessing a patient’s condition systematically and completely." (Reference)
    • ALT1:... that pharmacists provide cancer patients with over-the-counter counseling? Source: "A pharmacist can play an essential part in education and counseling of these patients to ease their anxiety, starting with explaining the many modalities of cancer treatment that varies from surgery, radiation, chemotherapy, immunotherapy, hormone therapy, stem cell transplant and prescription medication therapy...It is vital, that pharmacists across the nation take note of the growing use of over-the-counter products in oncology patients and garner the knowledge to prepare oneself to counsel and recommend safe and effective products according to treatment regimens." (Reference)

5x expanded by Biochemistry&Love (talk). Self-nominated at 22:33, 24 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 25[edit]

Anita Halpin

Berlin Street Scene, Ernst Kirchner, 1913.
Berlin Street Scene, Ernst Kirchner, 1913.
  • ... that in 2006, English communist Anita Halpin recovered Berlin Street Scene (pictured) by Ernst Kirchner, which was looted from her grandfather by the Nazis, and sold it for £20.5m?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 22:34, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough (BLP expanded from 922 to 3341 B "readable prose size") on 25 July, long enough, fully referenced. Hook fine, supported by online reference. Image fine, appropriately licensed. QPQ not done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:42, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
QPQ done. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Should it have the words "the painting" in the hook? Philafrenzy (talk) 00:10, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, Hawkeye7, this article does not qualify for the 2x unsourced BLP exception, since it had five referenced sources prior to the recent expansion. A 5x expansion will be required from the 922 prose characters present before the expansion began, requiring 4610 prose characters; as Hawkeye7 noted, there are currently 3341 prose characters, so another 1269 prose characters will need to be added for it to qualify. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


  • ... that more than 4,000 Jews massacred 75 years ago in Summer 1942, in and around Olyka (Ukraine) during the Holocaust, are commemorated by monuments? Source: link to source

5x expanded by James James Morrison Morrison (talk). Self-nominated at 10:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg This article does not qualify for DYK because it has been insufficiently expanded. On July 17, immediately before James James Morrison Morrison's first edit, it was 4155 B according to my page counter tool, and now it is 5892 B. Good work, but not eligible for DYK I am afraid, unless you took it to GAN, when it could qualify under the different criteria needed by GAs. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for looking this over and explaining.--JJMM (talk) 06:38, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

C. K. Mann

  • ... that highlife musician, C. K. Mann, described his music style as modernized Osode which is playing western musical instruments with rhythms of Ghanaian fishermen? see this

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 09:09, 25 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 26[edit]

Carol Smith (contralto)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:55, 2 August 2017 (UTC).

Ginza Six

Ginza Six frontage
Ginza Six frontage

Created by WoodElf (talk). Self-nominated at 14:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The current size of the prose stands at 1,380 characters (the acceptable limit is 1,500 chars). Vensatry (talk) 09:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

M-tp M-TP

Reviewed: 5,6,7,8
Created by Saphina123 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:09, 26 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Can you please add the sources for each hook? ♠PMC(talk) 00:33, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
@Premeditated Chaos: I've added the sources! Saphina123 (talk) 04:47, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 27[edit]

Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too

  • Comment: was granted GA status on July 27, 2017.

Improved to Good Article status by Anotheronewiki (talk). Self-nominated at 15:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC).

Thomas Richard Morris

Created by Curlymanjaro (talk). Self-nominated at 13:51, 29 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg the article is long enough, is neutral, contains no close paraphrasing or copyvio (0%), the hook is neutral, short enough, interesting, is properly sourced with an inline source citation, the article itself is adequately sourced and written in adequate English. QPQ is needed: 5 credits (1 double they are actually 6) --Elisa.rolle (talk) 02:26, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Iva Honyestewa

Sources:[16] [17]

Created by Skistud (talk). Self-nominated at 14:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC).

QPQ: Laurie Davidson (actor)

Buy Bust

Created by Slightlymad (talk). Self-nominated at 05:53, 28 July 2017 (UTC).

Traci Hunter Abramson

  • Reviewed: Baby I
  • Comment: Abramson said that writing the novel helped her "heal from" the trauma; I interpreted that as being the same as "process" (since she wasn't directly a victim, I thought that wording made more sense).

Created by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 27 July 2017 (UTC).

  • I think the main hook still kind of implies she was a victim. DaßWölf 00:11, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT1 is true for any former CIA employee who writes fiction or nonfiction about the Company. It's in the contract they sign when they start. In other words, I consider it a dull hook as it is not terribly surprising information. Daniel Case (talk) 01:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
  • I should note that this page has been nominated for deletion. So I'd advise any potential reviewer to wait until that resolves. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
  • The result of the page's deletion nomination was keep, so it is ready for review. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Joseph Smith presidential campaign, 1844

  • ... that Latter Day Saints founder Joseph Smith, in his 1844 presidential campaign, proposed cutting salaries of members of the United States Congress to help fund freeing the slaves by compensated emancipation? Source: "Reduce Congress at least two-thirds. Two senators from a State and two members to a million of population will do more business than the army that now occupy the halls of the national legislature. Pay them two dollars and their board per diem (except Sundays). . . . . Petition, also, ye goodly inhabitants of the slave States, your legislators to abolish slavery by the year 1850, or now, and save the abolitionist from reproach and ruin, infamy and shame. Pray Congress to pay every man a reasonable price for his slaves out of the surplus revenue arising from the sale of public lands and from the deduction of pay from the members of Congress. . . . . The Southern people are hospitable and noble. They will help to rid so free a country of every vestige of slavery, whenever they are assured of an equivalent for their property." Joseph Smith, Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States

Created by Smooth alligator (talk). Self-nominated at 16:32, 27 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Two great hooks, though perhaps over-long, but sadly several paras are unreferenced, so fails the criteria for now. New & long enough anyway. Is a QPQ needed? Better check the rules on all these points. Let me know if it is ready for re-review in a reasonable time. Johnbod (talk) 02:24, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Martyrdom of Barsamya

  • Comment: Brand new article as of July 27. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 06:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Withdrawing nomination. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC) Created/expanded by JudeccaXIII (talk). Self-nominated at 06:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 28[edit]

Home and Away: Revenge

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:56, 2 August 2017 (UTC).

Thomas Lyle Williams

  • ... that Thomas Lyle Williams started producing Maybelline in 1917, the first mascara in the United States, and named after his sister Mabel? Source: The Maybelline Story: And the Spirited Family Dynasty Behind It by Sharrie Williams ([18])
    • ALT1:... that Thomas Lyle Williams had the idea to create the first mascara, Maybelline, after seeing his sister Mabel use a mix of petroleum jelly and burnt cork to darken her eyelashes? Source: The Maybelline Story: And the Spirited Family Dynasty Behind It by Sharrie Williams ([19])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 22:49, 30 July 2017 (UTC).

  • QPQ above

George Gyan-Baffour

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 14:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 29[edit]

Lillie Rose Ernst

Lillie Rose Ernst, Class of 1892, Early Graduate Photographs
Lillie Rose Ernst, Class of 1892, Early Graduate Photographs
  • ... that Lillie Rose Ernst, one of the first 12 women to graduate from Washington University in St. Louis, was the leader of The Potters, an artistic group of 10 women in St. Louis during the early 20th century? Source: A Celebration of Women at Washington University in St. Louis ([20])
    • ALT1:... that Lillie Rose Ernst, the leader of The Potters, an artistic group of 10 women from St. Louis, was the first woman to become a principal in a public high school in the United States? Source: In Her Place: A Guide to St. Louis Women's History by Katharine T. Corbett (1999) ([21])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 23:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC).

  • QPQ above

Kofi Dzamesi

  • ... that the minister for chieftancy and religious affairs in Ghana, Kofi Dzamesi, has a task of finding ways to settle the over 350 chieftancy disputes in the country? Source: this
    • ALT1:... that Ghanaian politician, Kofi Dzamesi, survived an assassination attempt on his life whiles he was the Volta Regional minister? Source: this
    • ALT2:... that the minister for chieftancy and religious affairs in Ghana, Kofi Dzamesi, survived an assassination attempt on his life in 2008? Source: this

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 12:53, 29 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 30[edit]


Improved to Good Article status by JerrySa1 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:32, 2 August 2017 (UTC).

  • .

Gordon Vette

  • ... that airline captain Gordon Vette, famous for rescuing a pilot who was lost over the Pacific Ocean, authored a report on the crash of Air New Zealand Flight 901 that inspired a revolution in aviation safety? Sources for each of these facts are listed below in their respective alts.
    • ALT1:... that Captain Gordon Vette's research into the crash of Air New Zealand Flight 901 into Mount Erebus in Antarctica inspired a revolution in aviation safety? Source: The Hon. David Baragwanath's 2009 address to the Pacific Prosecutors Conference in Brisbane, "The Significant and Key Role of the Prosecutor in Upholding the Rule of Law" from the Victoria University of Wellington's Law Faculty website. Page 2, footnote 5: "The Erebus Report was, probably, ten years ahead of its time. After all, Chernobyl, Bhopal, Clapham Junction, Kings Cross and other major high technology systems catastrophes had yet to happen. They need not have happened. In retrospect, if the Aviation community – and the safety community at large – had grasped the message from Antarctica and applied its prevention lessons, Chernobyl, Clapham Junction, Kings Cross and certainly the Dryden report would not have existed."
    • ALT2:... that in 1978, airline captain Gordon Vette rescued a Cessna pilot who was lost over the Pacific Ocean and running out of fuel? Source: Barry Schiff's 1998 article, "Proficient Pilot: Help from Above" from the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association website. The whole article summarizes the rescue, but here are three quotes that establish that 1) the pilot was lost, 2) he was running out of fuel, and 3) Vette rescued him: "Fear began to gnaw at the ferry pilot's confidence, and he had to admit that he was lost and had no idea which way to turn," "Prochnow landed eight hours late, with little more than fumes in his tanks," and "[Vette's] aircraft was estimated to be closest to the AgWagon, and he agreed to divert, with the hope of being able to provide assistance."

Created by SaAnKe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

Barbara May Cameron

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 23:18, 30 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is long enough, new enough, and neutral with no copyright violations. The second hook is almost directly cited, but the first hook and part of the second hook needs to be directly cited to be considered. A QPQ is needed. SL93 (talk) 18:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
, the first hook is sourced from the link provided: [[26]] "She moved to San Francisco in 1973 and co-founded Gay American Indians two years later. [...] In Memory of Barbara M. Cameron, Hunkpapa Lakota of the Fort Yates band, Standing Rock Nation"; same for the second hook: [27] "She was born on May 22, 1954 in Fort Yates, North Dakota. She was raised on the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation in South Dakota [...] In 1975 Cameron co-founded the group Gay American Indians." I added the source Will Roscoe papers and Gay American Indians records, OAC [28] to both if you were saying that the "first" claim was missing (but it was in the wiki-link provided). Please let me know if you need further details. Elisa.rolle
I didn't say that the info wasn't sourced. I said that everything in the hooks need to be directly cited which is a DYK rule. I will direct cite everything when I get home from work if it isn't done by then. SL93 (talk) 21:32, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, then I'm not sure what you mean with "directly cited" Elisa.rolle
It's fine. I took care of it. Directly cited means that wherever the hook is in the article, there must be a cite directly after the hook. Even if there is a reference for that hook later on in that part of the article, there still must be a cite directly after the hook. Now all that there needs to be is a QPQ. SL93 (talk) 00:14, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
  • SL93, so far as I can tell this is Elisa.rolle's first DYK nomination. She has received creation credit for three other DYK nominations, but all of those were nominated by other people, so they don't count toward her initial five free noms. So a QPQ, while welcome, is not required of her for this nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC) Apologies: I see that Elisa.rolle has far more than five approved nominations on the Approved page, meaning that a QPQ is required after all. Elisa.rolle, I have just posted a list of which of your approved nominations are being allocated as "free"; all of the others will require a quid pro quo review of another editor's nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Christian William Miller

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 23:09, 30 July 2017 (UTC).

Bipin Ganatra

  • Comment: QPQ technically not need but will do it within a few hours

Created by Forceradical (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 2 August 2017 (UTC).


  • ... that Akhamaman, the self-proclaimed king of Pegu, began his career as a rower on the royal yacht of King Narathihapate of Pagan? Source: (Pan Hla 2005: 28)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 18:07, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 31[edit]

Supporter liaison officer

  • Reviewed: 2017–18 London & South East Premier
  • Comment: I will traveling during the coming week so my QPQ review will not be in until after that, and I may not answer to any comments right away.
    • QPQ review now done. – Elisson • T • C • 12:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Created by Johan Elisson (talk). Self-nominated at 23:11, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

James Amster

Amster Yard, New York City
Amster Yard, New York City
  • ... that Norman Norell, Billy Baldwin, Isamu Noguchi were all living and working in the same building complex, Amster Yard (today open to the public), restored by James Amster in 1944? Source: Manhattan's Turtle Bay: Story of a Midtown Neighborhood by Pamela Hanlon (2008) ([31])
    • ALT1:... that Elsie De Wolfe suggested to James Amster to add a mirror at the end of Amster Yard, to make it appear bigger, and that the mirror is still in place today? Source: Manhattan's Turtle Bay: Story of a Midtown Neighborhood by Pamela Hanlon (2008) ([32])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 16:17, 31 July 2017 (UTC).

  • The first suggestion is not factually accurate. Page 170 of the cited source specifies that Wallace made the comment in 1995 after reviewing excerpts of the program "The Homosexuals", a CBS Reports episode that aired in 1967. I like ALT1 though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crewman Capote (talkcontribs)
I withdraw ALT0, now ALT1 is ALT0 and ALT2 is ALT1. Elisa.rolle

Cecilia Dapaah

  • ... that Cecilia Dapaah, Ghana's minister for aviation, has plans to start a new national carrier and make the country the aviation hub of West Africa? Source: see this
    • ALT1:... that Cecilia Dapaah, Ghana's minister for aviation, has plans to ensure that the country has a national carrier by 2019?
    • ALT2:... that former Bantama legislator and leadership expert Cecilia Dapaah is Ghana's minister for aviation?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 14:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC).

Ibrahim Mohammed Awal

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 14:10, 31 July 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 1[edit]

Wildlife of Turkmenistan

Karakum Desert
Karakum Desert

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk) and Hanberke (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 19:37, 3 August 2017 (UTC).

Lazarus Averbuch

  • ... that on March 2, 1908, the Chicago Chief of Police shot an 18 year-old immigrant man dead? Source: Lazarus Averbuch was an 18 year-old, Russian-born, Jewish immigrant to Chicago, who was shot and killed by Chicago Chief of Police George Shippy on March 2, 1908.
    • ALT1:... that suspected anarchist Lazarus Averbuch was shot to death in the home of Chicago's Chief of Police?

Created/expanded by MidwestCuttlefish (talk). Self-nominated at 21:06, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

William Olander

  • ... that when he was just a student, William Olander, late curator at New Museum, was one of the first to highlight the importance of the 1792 French proclamation La patrie en danger? Source: Days of Glory?: Imaging Military Recruitment and the French Revolution by Valerie Mainz (2016) ([33])
    • ALT1:... that William Olander asked ACT UP to create the installation "Let the Record Show..." when anonymous posters with the sentence "Silence = Death" started to appear throughout Manhattan? Source: Art Matters: How the Culture Wars Changed America by Julie Ault (1999) ([34])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 20:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

List of U.S. counties with longest life expectancy

Created by Smallchief (talk). Self-nominated at 12:40, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

  • I think, in addition to properly formatting the hook, you find one that relates to this list being about counties? Daniel Case (talk) 04:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I think that the explanation as to how to format the hook could be written in a language that resembles English. But never mind, I won't bother with this again.Smallchief (talk 04:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Smallchief, I've proposed a new hook because there's no real way to fit the article link into the original hook: it was about rich vs. poor rather than county vs. county. I've based ALT1 on what was an incomplete single-sentence paragraph; it will need to be sourced in the article, as will each paragraph above the table. I took a look at the individual county articles, and both do appear to be in the Rockies—more, the Continental Divide trail goes through them all. However, an updated hook cannot specify the Continental Divide without sourcing making that connection explicit, perhaps in an expansion of that particular sentence/paragraph, and the facts that they're in the Rockies and adjacent will need sourcing. (The three individual county articles each have a section, basically the same for each, about being one of the top three in longevity.) Since DYK has a rule requiring that articles not use bare URLs, you will need to flesh out some of the references. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate your interest in this article and the DYK. Inequality in the United States is an important topic. My sources for the info concerning the three counties in Colorado where people have the longest life expectancy are the following:

"Summit County has the highest life expectancy in the nation, according to new study," Summit Daily, May 8, 2017, http://www.summitdaily.com/news/summit-county-has-the-highest-life-expectancy-in-the-nation-according-to-new-study/

I recognize that this article published in a local newspaper might not be considered a reliable source. However, the study it cites and a map of life expectancy by county derives from the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). The map has been featured on many websites and in many publications. The most usable version of the map is located at:

"Life Expectancy at birth, both sexes, 2014" Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, https://vizhub.healthdata.org/subnational/usa, accessed 16 August 2017

If, on the webpage under dataset, you navigate to the map of "Life Expectancy" you can detect the three Colorado counties in the dark blue color. Clicking on each county gives you the data on life expectancy for that county.

I'll edit the wikipedia article to clarify that those are the two sources for the information regarding the three Colorado counties.

I've also done an article on the counties with the shortest life expectancy. That might also be a candidate for some form of highlighting. Smallchief (talk 13:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Isabel Pell

Miss Isabel Pell, 1930, by Arnold Genthe
Miss Isabel Pell, 1930, by Arnold Genthe

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 12:30, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

Street Books

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 05:57, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

Bumblebee (film)

  • Reviewed: Soon.

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 02:11, 1 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 2[edit]

Palythoa toxica

  • Reviewed: Nicola De Giosa
  • Comment: Alternative hooks welcome! The QPQ is a two article hook.

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:38, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

  • There may be some better potential hook, but first... what source provides the "connection between" in ALT0? EEng 16:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
None. It's implicit because Ostreopsis is involved in both. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Hmmm... OK, give me a day or two on this. I think we need to work The Seaweed of Death into it somehow. If I forget ping me again. EEng 17:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Actually, it's not a seaweed, but one of the Zoantharia. I know that there have been amateur aquarium keepers who became sick from it after placing the animal into saltwater fish tanks, and I could probably track down a source if that would be helpful. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:33, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
When I said that, I was thinking of Palythoa. Ostreopsis is closer to seaweed, but it's a single cell microorganism. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Here are some sources for that: [37], [38], [39], [40]. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
  • I have to admit I'm stymied here. I want to say something like
Beachgoers became ill in Italy because of something in the seaweed of death
but I can't wrap my head around the osteoporosis and the cryptozoology and the organelles and so on. What links the two events, really? Tryptofish, can you fashion something? EEng 03:04, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
My advice, first, would be to not use the phrase "seaweed of death" in that way, as it takes some OR to get to it. All I can see is where there is a traditional Hawaiian phrase of "deadly seaweed of Hana" that actually refers to something that is not seaweed.
Here is the linkage: there is a microorganism in seawater called Ostreopsis that produces a poison. (Not to be confused with osteoporosis, which is something else entirely, and not caused by the toxin.) These microorganisms get taken up into the cells (thus, subcellular organelles) by a coral-like animal called Palythoa, making the Palythoa poisonous in turn, and presumably helping to protect it from predators. Those unfortunate Italian beachgoers got sick because there was Ostreopsis in the water there. The Palythoa is in Hawaii and elsewhere in the South Pacific, but not in Italy (unless someone is keeping it in a fishtank indoors). Bottom line: I don't like the current proposed versions for the hook, because it seems to me that there is SYNTH in "connect"ing the Palythoa in Hawaii with what made the Italians sick.
I think that a hook about people getting sick from this stuff is a good and catchy way to go, but if we are going to fit both pages into one hook, it should be a case of poisoning by Palythoa (with Ostreopsis inside the Palythoa), rather than a case of Ostreopsis in the water by itself. It will take me a little time, but I will see if I can add something to the Palythoa page that will serve this purpose. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I had a SYNTH concern as well. Cwmhiraeth, I'm going to leave you in the capable hands of Tfish. His talents as a hooker are more applicable here than are mine. EEng 19:17, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
As in fish hooks. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you both. As I mentioned on EEng's talk page, I can split the nomination into two separtate hooks. There is plenty of interesting stuff in both articles. One problem is that though it is suggested that the palytoxin in the zoanthid is derived from Ostreopsis, it is apparently not proven. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:31, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
I think splitting the nomination is a good idea. Here are my suggestions for Palythoa toxica, and please feel free to ask me for ideas for hooks for the other page.
--Tryptofish (talk) 20:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
For Ostreopsis perhaps: ... that a marine species of dinoflagellate poisoned 209 Italian beachgoers in 2005? --Tryptofish (talk) 20:32, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you for your help Tryptofish, I have added you to the credits. The Ostreopsis article has been split off as a separate DYK nomination, and I have struck the redundant hook. Reviewer now needed for this single article nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:28, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Elizabeth Wade White

Elizabeth Wade White at age 18 in 1924 at Westover School
Elizabeth Wade White at age 18 in 1924 at Westover School
  • ... that Elizabeth Wade White, descendant of the Puritans who migrated to New England in the 1630s, wrote The Life of Anne Bradstreet, the first American writer to be published in the then colonies? Source: Elizabeth Wade White papers ([41])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 2 August 2017 (UTC).

  • This is not a review but I have a few quick comments. First, for the primary hook, should it say "Puritans who migrated" rather than "Puritans migrated?" For Alt1 (and also in the body of the article), you should probably clarify whether she enrolled in a graduate program at Oxford, rather than an undergraduate program (in which case it would be rather unusual to enroll without an undergraduate degree). Also, I recommend expanding the introductory paragraph in this article (a.k.a. the "lead" -- see MOS:INTRO). In general, one-sentence introductions do not provide a sufficient summary of the article. That said, I commend you for your efforts to write an article about this fascinating individual. Well done! Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
"descendant of" or "descended from" needed. Alt 1 is worse. I don't dare look at the article itself. Johnbod (talk) 02:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Helen Huntington Hull

Albert Bierstadt - Among the Sierra Nevada, California
Albert Bierstadt - Among the Sierra Nevada, California

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 3[edit]


  • ... that the Ticketer range of ticket machines allow for the depot to send messages to drivers via the machine itself? Source: "With our latest innovation, it is now possible to stay in touch with your drivers through data (text) messaging, allowing them to receive messages from you almost instantaneously, and read them when it is safe to do so." [45]
    • ALT1:... that the introduction of Ticketer ticket machines on Reading Transport buses meant that 11,000 pre-paid cards had to be reissued? Source: "New Ticketer machines were introduced on the entire fleet of Reading Transport buses on Sunday, March 27, requiring all 11,500 customers who hold pre-paid passes to be sent new cards." [46]

Created by My name is not dave (talk). Self-nominated at 16:29, 4 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Article is new, nominated within deadline and about a notable topic. The article is long enough, hooks meet the character limit. Earwig's tool reports copyvio unlikely (1% match). The article is cited, though a few of the citations seem to be the company's website or a company presentation (primary sources?). The article uses two images, one has no copyvio issues, the other is the company logo where fair use guidelines apply. @My name is not dave: couple of questions: [1] for the record, are there more non-company RS we can cite? [2] which DYK nom did you review for your QPQ credit? [3] can we tweak the hooks to make them more hooky? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 23:21, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
@My name is not dave and Ms Sarah Welch: I should be able to help with non-company RS in the next couple of days: I have access to some specialist publications. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 07:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 4[edit]


  • Reviewed: Nicola De Giosa
  • Comment: This is a two article QPQ, used also for the Palythoa toxica nomination, from which this nomination has been split. The original nomination was made on 6 August, well within the seven-day requirement for this article, which was created on 4 August.

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 12 August 2017 (UTC).

Occupational epidemiology

  • Reviewed: pending

5x expanded by Asfyris (talk). Nominated by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) at 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article is long enough and was recently expanded 5x. As far as I can tell, the nominator has already had 5 DYK nominations, so a QPQ review requirement still needs to be met. And while the hook is appropriately cited in the article, it really doesn't seem "hook-y" - it's essentially just a definition of the subject (X is Y).--Slon02 (talk) 20:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Jugendkulturhaus Dynamo

The Dynamo in 2011
The Dynamo in 2011
  • Reviewed: This is my first DYK (please be gentle), so I believe I am exempt? I will do one if not.
  • Comment: Also, you only need to the most interesting DYK (not all of them).

Created by Menaechmi (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC).

Little green woodpecker

  • ... that logging and clearing of forests is causing the population of the little green woodpecker, found in Africa, to increase? Source: "Trend Justification: This species appears to benefit from logging and clearance of forests since it prefers more open habitats" IUCN Red List
    • ALT1:... that logging and clearing of forests is causing the population of the little green woodpecker, found in Africa, to increase, because it prefers open habitats? Source: same source

5x expanded by Gulumeemee (talk). Self-nominated at 01:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Locate in Africa please. Johnbod (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I am not sure what you mean. Can you be more specific? Gulumeemee (talk) 05:36, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Sigh! Work in where the bird LIVES. Africa or West Africa. Johnbod (talk) 13:44, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for noticing that. I clarified it in the article. Gulumeemee (talk) 02:10, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
No, you need to say it in the hook here. Johnbod (talk) 03:16, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, done. Gulumeemee (talk) 03:26, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that hooks are set. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 5[edit]

Polydora ciliata

  • ... that a marine organism described in 1971 as a new species of gastrotrich, was identified later as the larva of a bristleworm, probably Polydora ciliata? Source: "The planktonic larva, Metadasydytes quadrimaculatus Roszczak, 1971, a genus and species from Vistula Lagoon, Baltic coast of Poland, and described as a gastrotrich, is clearly a spionid larva. Hummon (2008: 115) refers it to Polydora ciliata, but notes the identification to that species is not certain."

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

List of Penn Quakers men's basketball head coaches

Created by Sportsguy17 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:27, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

Battle of Bileća

  • ... that an Ottoman army invading the Kingdom of Bosnia caused panic and flight to the neighbouring city-state of Ragusa prior to its heavy defeat by the Bosnians at the Battle of Bileća in 1388?
    Source: "Na glas o nadiranju Turaka, u Dubrovniku se 15. avgusta 1388. zaključilo, da se puste u Ston svi begunci, koji su se sklanjali ispred nasilnika..." "Kod Bileće, 27. avgusta, dočekao je tu tursku vojsku, u hercegovačkim klancima, vojvoda Vlatko Vuković sa bosanskom vojskom i potukao je do noge." ([50])
    • ALT1:... that the Bosnians allowed the Ottoman Turks to penetrate deep into their kingdom before inflicting a heavy defeat at the Battle of Bileća in 1388?
      Source: "Босанци којима је турски удар био намењен нису задржали турску војску све до Билеће." (Ćirković 1964, p. 1358)

5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 01:08, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

Adeline Palmier Wagoner

Adeline Palmier Wagoner, 1914
Adeline Palmier Wagoner, 1914
  • ... that Adeline Palmier Wagoner wrote Madame Beaulieu: A Colonial Dame, the biography of Angelique Chauvin Beaulieu, her great-great-grandmother, who became a social leader in late XVIII century Cahokia? Source: Johnson, Anne (1914). Notable women of St. Louis, 1914 ([51])
    • ALT1:... that Adeline Palmier Wagoner was the president of the St. Louis branch of the National Plant, Flower and Fruit Guild, a charity with the purpose to bring flowers and comfort foods to the poor and ill people? Source: Johnson, Anne (1914). Notable women of St. Louis, 1914 ([52])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 15:29, 5 August 2017 (UTC).

Radio Erena

Created by Zigzig20s (talk). Nominated by Forceradical (talk) at 09:27, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 6[edit]

Daniel H. Coakley

Created by Hirolovesswords (talk). Self-nominated at 00:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC).

Melanie Barnett

5x expanded by Aoba47 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:26, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

Carlos Cuevas

Converted from a redirect by Hameltion (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

Cátulo Castillo

Cátulo Castillo (left) hugging Juan Perón
Cátulo Castillo (left) hugging Juan Perón

5x expanded by Hameltion (talk). Self-nominated at 02:44, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

List of New England Patriots first-round draft picks

  • Reviewed: Mervyn Brogan

5x expanded by Sportsguy17 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

Berenice Wyer

Berenice Wyer, 1914
Berenice Wyer, 1914

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 12:21, 6 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 7[edit]

Bonnemaisonia hamifera

  • ... that the two forms of the red seaweed Bonnemaisonia hamifera are so unlike each other that they were at first thought to be different species? Source: "The tetrasporophyte was earlier considered as a separate species (= Trailliella intricata) "
  • Reviewed: Zoothamnium niveum
  • Comment: The hook fact is on the Biology / Ecology page of the DAISIE factsheet

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 10 August 2017 (UTC).

American Jewish cuisine

  • ... that American Jewish cuisine was heavily influenced by the cuisine of Jewish immigrants who came to the United States from Eastern Europe around the turn of the 20th century? Source: pp. 82–88

Created by Mudwater (talk). Nominated by Northamerica1000 (talk) at 23:57, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Yes, I did, like everybody else. There must be a better hook! Johnbod (talk) 02:23, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I also knew that and agree with Johnbod that there are better hooks out there. These might feauture the less visible Jewish cuisines in America, such as Sephardic, Arabic, Ethiopian and other culinary influences from the Diaspora. Morganfitzp (talk) 20:30, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Brcko in Zagreb

  • Reviewed: QPQ pending
  • Comment: I'd like the article to appear on the Main page on 28 August 2017, the 100th anniversary of the film's release.

Moved to mainspace by GregorB (talk). Self-nominated at 18:22, 8 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @GregorB: Long enough, no copyvios, neutral, offline/foreign-language sources accepted AGF. Nomination looks to be a day late, but close enough. Needs:
1) QPQ
2) 2nd sentence is missing a subject (it currently reads as "A short comedy . . . premiered on 28 August 1917," with no mention of Brcko in Zagreb).
3) Not for the QPQ, but is there any info on where the surviving stills came from? Seems interesting that traces of the film, but not its entirely, remain. --Usernameunique (talk) 11:27, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

2007–08 Louisville Cardinals men's basketball team

5x expanded by Sportsguy17 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:00, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

E. Joy Johnson

The Foreman of the J.A.6.
The Foreman of the J.A.6.
  • ... that E. Joy Johnson, author of the 1911 novel The Foreman of the J.A.6. (pictured), was among the first women in Wyoming to own a drug store? Source: Mrs. Lawrence Johnson Dies Here Saturday". Niobrara County Library ([55])
    • ALT1:... that the 1911 novel The Foreman of the J.A.6. (pictured) by E. Joy Johnson was illustrated by artist E. William Gollings? Source: Johnson, E. Joy (1911). The foreman of the JA6; a novel ([56])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Begin review Article is new enough and long enough. Not a stub. Article is neutral and well referenced. Image is relevant and under a free licence. Small adjustment to hooks. Both hooks are correctly formatted. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2017 (UTC) AGF on offline sources. No copyvios or close paraphrasing detected. Hooks are correctly formatted and have inline cite. The archive.org ref is dead to me but I verified that Gollings was the illustrator from WorldCat. The third image in the gallery appears to show the lynching of a black man. Both of the hooks are rather weak. Why not say something about the book being based on her experiences of running a ranch in eastern Wyoming? I will hold off ticking in the hope of a better hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Note: A QPQ review will be required for this nomination. All five exemptions have been used up on nominations either in Prep or on the Approved page. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
See my comments about the hooks above. Surely we can do better? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:23, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
  • "The third image in the gallery appears to show the lynching of a black man" no, is actually the same man you see in the other images, I suppose the husband, and he is alive in the final picture, so I suppose he survived the lynching. As for the hooks, I do not think the fact she was the first woman owning a drugstore in Wyoming (when it was a pioneers land) is weak... actually I like it very much, but what about
ALT2:... that E. Joy Johnson, author of The Foreman of the J.A.6. on her experience owning a ranch in frontierland, was among the first women in Wyoming owning a drug store? Elisa.rolle (talk) 23:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
I struggle to understand how owning a drug store in a particular state or being one of the first women so to do, not even the first, is remotely interesting or important. There's also no connection between the two parts of the hook. How about dropping that and just saying the book was based on her experiences of owning a ranch? I am sure people would be interested in what it was like to run a western ranch. (more interesting than a drug store probably!) I accept your assurances about the content of the picture. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:20, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Daisy E. Nirdlinger

Daisy E. Nirdlinger, Gerhard Sisters Photo, 1914
Daisy E. Nirdlinger, Gerhard Sisters Photo, 1914

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at Self-nominated at 12:27, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 8[edit]

Jingu Bashi

Visual kei fans at Jingu Bashi
Visual kei fans at Jingu Bashi

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 10:30, 12 August 2017 (UTC).

Children of Llullaillaco

  • Reviewed: I am exempt from QPQ as I have zero DYK credits.

5x expanded by CJK09 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Has been expanded by 5x if you go by character count - I make it roughly 1826 characters expanded to 9473 (only counting relevant text). I was concerned that the word-count seemed to place it just under the criteria by about 50-70 words, but looking at DYK regs, it only says about character count, so this safely passes the 5x expansion limit by almost 350 characters. So it passes there. The article is good, and I could find no copyright triggers in a Earwig check, except for a few appropriately used quotations which don't count as copyvio, institution names, and a few extremely normal word combinations such as "on top of the mountain" - NOTHING to cause concern there. There is ONE issue though: "La niña del rayo appears to have been treated less roughly than the other two sacrifices." needs a citation. There are a couple other sentences that should really be cited, but I feel that cites seem redundant because we can tell from the text that the Incas DID indeed consider it a great honour to die as a sacrifice, and that Mummy Juanita WAS found on a mountaintop too. Mabalu (talk) 10:18, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
  • User:Mabalu, thanks for reviewing my nomination. I've added a source for the sentence about la niña del rayo (and fixed a small error I had made), and also added a source for the fact that the Inca people considered it a great honor to be chosen for sacrifice. CJK09 (talk) 19:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Ida Hall Roby

  • ... that Ida Hall Roby was the first woman to graduate from Illinois College of Pharmacy, Northwestern University, and the only woman pharmacist in Illinois at the end of the 19th century? Source: The Appeal, Saturday, September 20, 1890 ([59]) and Willard, Frances Elizabeth, and Livermore, Mary Ashton Rice, (1893). A woman of the century. ([60])
    • ALT1:... that the Woman's Pharmaceutical Association of Illinois was founded in 1893 by Ida Hall Roby, first woman to graduate from the Illinois College of Pharmacy, Northwestern University, in 1889? Source: Gordon, Ann Dexter (2006). The Selected Papers of Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony ([61]) and Willard, Frances Elizabeth, and Livermore, Mary Ashton Rice, (1893). A woman of the century. ([62])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 23:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC).

Thomas Abernethy (explorer)

Abernethy's party at the North Magnetic Pole
Abernethy's party at the North Magnetic Pole

** ALT1:... that in 1831 Thomas Abernethy found that the Teletubbies had beaten him to be first to the North Magnetic Pole (pictured)? Source: illustration seems to be the only source

Quotes from sources. "Thomas Abernethy ... had been in the first party to reach the Magnetic North Pole"[1], "It was James [Clark] Ross' intention, after leaving his uncle, to explore the coast further north and, more importantly, to seek out the North Magnetic Pole. ... At 8.00am. on June 1, 1831, Ross set up camp ... where ... on his dip-circle the reading was 89° 59'. Ross was satisfied that this was the magnetic pole. ... Ross shared the credit for the achievement with his party ... Now, in 1831, Thomas Abernethy ... was also a member of the party which was the first to reach the North Magnetic Pole".[2] "It would not now be worth my [John Ross's] while too detail this our progress in the approximation to the magnetic pole, ... and this keystone of all our previous labours laid by the party, consisting chiefly of the mates Blanky and Abernethy, under the immediate orders of my successful nephew [James Clark Ross] ... it was the ship Victory, under the command of Captain John Ross, which assigned the north-west Magnetic Pole, in the year 1831," [3]


  1. ^ Buchan (2016), p. 8.
  2. ^ Buchan (2016), p. 77–78.
  3. ^ Ross & Ross (1835), pp. 569–570.

Created by Thincat (talk). Self-nominated at 16:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC).

Video game walkthrough

  • ... that ... before they were placed online, Nintendo video game walkthroughs were available via telephone hotlines? Source: [63] [64][65]
    • ALT1:... that ...video game walkthroughs are typically designed to assist other players in accomplishing certain feats within video games? Source: Niemeyer, D. J., & Gerber, H. R. (2015). Maker culture and Minecraft : implications for the future of learning. Educational Media International, 52(3), 216-226. doi:10.1080/09523987.2015.1075103
    • ALT2:... that ... some individuals and companies have been known to earn lucrative income through the process of recording and offering video game walkthroughs publicly? Source: [66] [67] COSTA, D. (2017). Video Gaming for Fun and Profit. PC Magazine, 6-8.
    • ALT3:... that ... CNN declared the watching of video games being played by other people via video walkthroughs and live streams "must-see TV"? Source: "Why watching video games is must-see TV" [68]
    • ALT4:...that...GamesRadar+ has called the watching of video game playthroughs the "Netflix of video games"? Source: "No-commentary playthroughs are the Netflix of video games" [69]
    • ALT5:...that...in the late 1980s through mid 2000s, Nintendo game councillors provided callers with assistance by walking them through areas of video games via telephone hot-lines? Source: [70][71][72]
    • ALT6:...that...in the late 1980s through mid 2000s, Nintendo game councillors provided players with assistance by walking them through areas of video games via telephone hot-lines? Source: [73][74][75]

Improved to Good Article status by TheSandDoctor (talk). Self-nominated at 06:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Hook 1 is a little vague, as the article doesn't mention walkthroughs and the Nintendo counselors didn't actually give full walkthroughs of games, just parts of games. Hook 2 is a little boring being a straight up dicdef. Hook 3 is somewhat misleading as the links describe video game live streaming rather than actual walkthroughs. Hook 4 has the same issue as Hook 3. Hook 5 describes playthroughs rather than walkthroughs, which imply the host is "walking you through the game", not just playing it. There is no source in the article that says playthroughs are the same as walkthroughs. Ultimately Hook 2 makes the most sense but is not interesting to a broad audience, so there needs to be a new hook that specifically mentions walkthroughs.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:25, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • @TheSandDoctor: I'm not sure that changing Hook 1 to "partial" will remedy the issues, since there is no source that says that partial walkthroughs are still classified as walkthroughs. Citing an actual partial "walkthrough" won't work, as that is WP:OR. So please come up with an actual secondary source that says that walkthroughs don't necessarily need to cover the whole game.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:57, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@Zxcvbnm: I added a couple of hooks and new sources. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 03:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
@TheSandDoctor: I think Hook 1 might be better if it was phrased like this: "...before they were placed online, Nintendo video game walkthroughs were available via telephone hotlines?"ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
@Zxcvbnm:  Done --TheSandDoctor (talk) 14:36, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

List of international cricket centuries by Steve Smith

Created/expanded by Sahara4u (talk). Self-nominated at 06:18, 8 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 9[edit]

Quantico (TV series)

Priyanka Chopra at an event in 2014
Priyanka Chopra at an event in 2014

Improved to Good Article status by Krish! (talk). Self-nominated at 10:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

2016–17 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

2016–17 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
2016–17 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
  • ... that prior to the season, the 2016–17 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team lost two players to graduation, three others who transferred and two assistant coaches who took head coaching jobs? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 04:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC).

Krake ZK 14

  • ... that Krake ZK 14 encouraged phantasy and team spirit? Source: Prof. Kurt Sydow (1908–1981) Kurt Sydow: Die Lebensfahrt des Martin Luserke. Lecture of Kurt Sydow on occ. of Martin Luserke's 100st birthday, 3 May 1980 (true copy)
    • ALT1:... that Krake ZK 14 was a swimming poet's workshop? Source: Dr. Martin Kiessig Martin Kiessig: Die alte ZK 14. Zu Besuch auf einer schwimmenden Dichterwerkstatt. In: Martin Luserke. Gestalt und Werk. Versuch einer Wesensdeutung. Philosophical Dissertation (doctor's thesis), University of Leipzig, Germany, published by J. Särchen Verlag, Berlin 1936
    • ALT2:... that Krake ZK 14 was boarded by Beate Uhse? Source: Emder Zeitung True copy of an article with picture published by Emder Zeitung, weekly magazine, series: Emder erzählen (sequence 127), 5 July 1997
  • Comment: It might be of common interest to read about a historic poet's ship during Nazi era. I would appreciate any correction of my English if necessary since I am no native speaker/writer. Thank you.

Created by Wereldnieuws (talk). Self-nominated at 18:41, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

Kate Brew Vaughn

Advertisement from Charlotte Observer, 1917
Advertisement from Charlotte Observer, 1917
  • ... that hundreds of people attended the cooking demonstration of Kate Brew Vaughn in the 1910s? Source: Byrn, Anne (2016). American Cake: From Colonial Gingerbread to Classic Layer, the Stories and Recipes Behind More Than 125 of Our Best-Loved Cakes. Rodale. p. 100 ([76])
    • ALT1:... that Culinary Echoes from Dixie and My Best Recipes, 1910s cooking books by Kate Brew Vaughn are hot commodities in the historic cookbook circles? Source: Edwards, Patricia "Eddie"; Peckham, Peter (2008). Antique Trader Collectible Cookbooks Price Guide. Krause Publications. p. 200 ([77])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

Judith Ellen Foster

  • ... Judith Ellen Foster, Iowa most prominent woman in the 1880s, was among the first women to practice law in Iowa? Source: Mott, David C. "Judith Ellen Foster". The Annals of Iowa. 19 (2): 126-138 ([78])
    • ALT1:... that in 1900 Judith Ellen Foster was with the Taft Commission in the Philippine to study conditions of women and children there? Source: Mott, David C. "Judith Ellen Foster". The Annals of Iowa. 19 (2): 126-138 ([79])

5x expanded by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 12:33, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

Mary Dranga Campbell

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg the article is long enough (maybe try to divide Personal life and career), is neutral, contains no close paraphrasing or copyvio (16.7% mostly positions that cannot be changed), the hook is neutral (ALT1 is the best), short enough, interesting, is properly sourced with an inline source citation (you need to include [80], the article itself is adequately sourced and written in adequate English (not English first myself, but I think it has to be reviewed: "When she became divorced?"). --Elisa.rolle (talk) 23:09, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
  • I'm striking ALT1 as untenable. The idea that no trained social worker before her had helped the blind is absurd, and the source isn't in a position to know something like that. EEng 02:58, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
    • That's fine and all I guess, but I can say that neither are you. SL93 (talk) 16:55, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
    • Actually, I went ahead and removed your cross out. Unless you can show that you're an expert on the matter. SL93 (talk) 16:57, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
You can remove the strikeout if it pleases you, but such a hook can never run with such a source. I'm not in a position to know, but I am in a position to know who is likely to know; evaluating the reliability of sources is our primary job as editors. A statement on a college sorority's website is not an RS for anything outside its own history and, possibly, direct biographical facts about its members. EEng 17:06, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
It's on a college sorority's website, but it's a museum that has been around since 1902 that is located there. SL93 (talk) 17:07, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
I started a request for discussion on the DYK talk page. SL93 (talk) 17:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Maybe it would help that she was a member. SL93 (talk) 17:21, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
"then go discuss it on the talk page" from your edit summary - I am trying to discuss it here, but you would rather never discuss anything when you think you're right. SL93 (talk) 17:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Member of what? The sorority? That's fine, but doesn't change the fact that an unsourced statement, on the website of a college sorority, to the effect that no one anywhere (in the world, presumably, or maybe in the US) did a certain thing until one their members did it, cannot possibly be taken as reliable. This "museum" [81] has not "been around since 1902" – the sorority itself has – but regardless of its age, a "museum" run by college students isn't a museum in any sense we can use here, and that's true even if "The home was purchased by Delta Zeta in 1981 and expanded throughout the years. It now serves as a museum and the headquarters of the sorority. The first floor holds all of the artifacts and memorabilia for the museum. It also holds two conference rooms, a kitchen, an executive office wing, and offices of the organization, and rooms where visiting alumni can stay." Find a modern scholarly source on the history of social services to the blind, or you'll have to go with another hook. EEng 17:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Or I can wait till a discussion takes place (not just between us) before I start taking orders from you. SL93 (talk) 17:40, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Okey dokey. EEng 17:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg I would like to withdraw this. Not because I think I'm wrong, but because I don't think Wikipedia is one of the greatest things ever and this argument isn't worth my time. SL93 (talk) 17:52, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

The problem was only with ALT1. ALT0 is fine. Withdrawing the entire nom seems WP:POINTy. EEng 18:21, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Your opinion about that is trash to me, but I will say that it is the same source for both hooks. SL93 (talk) 19:06, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Please control yourself. A source is rarely blanket reliable or unreliabite – it's reliable or unreliable in context for a particular claim. I said above that a college sorority's website is not an RS for anything outside its own history and, possibly, direct biographical facts about its members (e.g. there's no way a sorority can be considered reliable on the assertion that no one before Campbell was a social worker helping the blind -- they're not experts on the history of social work or the history of blindness); but the Woman of the Year is an award given by the sorority itself [82], and they're certainly reliable for their own awards. EEng 21:01, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

She & Him discography

5x expanded by Damian Vo (talk). Self-nominated at 09:25, 9 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Comment: Made a minor grammatical correction to the hook ("accounting" to "account"). --Usernameunique (talk) 21:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on August 10[edit]

Articles created/expanded on August 11[edit]

Bohemia Interactive

  • ... that ... Bohemia Interactive bought a T-72 tank in order to express gratitude to "everyone who has supported the studio and its games throughout the past 16 years"? Source: "Arma and DayZ developer Bohemia Interactive has bought itself a a decommissioned T-72 main battle tank" [83]

Improved to Good Article status by AdrianGamer (talk). Nominated by TheSandDoctor (talk) at 19:09, 11 August 2017 (UTC).

Katherine Winthrop McKean

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 13:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 12[edit]

Pavona maldivensis

Pavona maldivensis
Pavona maldivensis
  • ... that the coral Pavona maldivensis can emit a bright orange fluorescence? Source: "Phycoerythrin, another photosynthetic pigment found in zooxanthellae, fluoresces a bright orange color. This is visible in the day, especially in a branching coral called Pavona maldivensis."

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 11:27, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Una B. Herrick

Una B. Herrick
Una B. Herrick

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 22:27, 12 August 2017 (UTC).

  • I'm on the fence about the patent hook, because patents are WP:PRIMARY. I guess I'm comfortable with the bare statement that the patent was awarded, but I'd be interested to hear what others think. (See, incidentally, [90].) On ALT1, I don't know what "the first building to be dedicated immediately after completion in 1926" is trying to say -- were other buildings completed in 1926, but not immediately dedicated? EEng 03:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
the university website says exactly "Herrick Hall is named in honor of Herrick. It was the first building to be dedicated immediately upon completion." therefore explanation is that usually buildings are dedicated AFTER the person to whom they are dedicated have left the institution. In 1926 Herrick was still in place until 1932.Elisa.rolle (talk) 08:34, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Well, I can agree that might be what's meant (it's certainly a vague way of saying it) but to avoid the issue, can I suggest instead
ALT2:... that Una B. Herrick was a "trailblazer who made a place for women" at Montana State University? [91]
EEng 21:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Hooks are like toothpaste: if you squeeze hard enough there's always one more. EEng 21:47, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Rafael Irizarry (scientist)

  • Comment: Happy to help modify as required, ALT1 may be more interesting for general audience.

Created/expanded by Amkilpatrick (talk). Self-nominated at 20:23, 12 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 13[edit]

St Peter's Church, Henfield

St Peter's Church, Henfield, West Sussex
St Peter's Church, Henfield, West Sussex
  • ... that when St Peter's Church (pictured) in Henfield needed a bell in the 17th century, the churchwarden stole one from St Leonard's Church in Aldrington? Source: Middleton (1979) p. 191 and Middleton (2003) vol. 12, p. 99. Full quotes are lengthy, especially the latter source, but ping me if required.
  • Reviewed: Pending

Created by Antiquary (talk) and Hassocks5489 (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 20:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Social thriller

Created by Morganfitzp (talk). Self-nominated at 22:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC).

Geneve L. A. Shaffer

Geneve Shaffer, San Francisco Call, 1909
Geneve Shaffer, San Francisco Call, 1909
  • ... that in 1909 Geneve L. A. Shaffer was probably the first woman in the world to sail in a flying machine? Source: "May Be First Women to Sail in an Aeroplane", San Francisco Call, 106 (71), 1909 ([94]) and Lebow, Eileen F. (2002). Before Amelia: Women Pilots in the Early Days of Aviation, Potomac Books, Inc. p. 416 ([95])
    • ALT1:... that Geneve L. A. Shaffer, the first glider pilot woman in the 1910s, was the only woman skyscraper builder in the United States in the 1930s? Source: "May Be First Women to Sail in an Aeroplane", San Francisco Call, 106 (71), 1909 ([96]) and San Francisco Girl is Skyscraper Queen, Shamokin News-Dispatch, 1934 ([97])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 21:53, 13 August 2017 (UTC).

  • I really hope the nominator doesn't feel picked on, but once again I have to push back on these "first" claims sourced to obsolete sources. Compare the claim made for Aida_de_Acosta. I've struck ALT0 and cut the "first" claim from ALT1. EEng 03:05, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
sorry but a 2002's book is not old: "Lebow, Eileen F. (2002). "Before Amelia: Women Pilots in the Early Days of Aviation", Potomac Books, Inc. p. 416 ([98])" that is the reason why there is the "probably" on the hook. FYI the Smithsonian does not put the "probably" in the claim: "United States Women in Aviation through World War I", Oakes, Claudia M. (1978-11-14) "Geneve Shaffer of San Francisco [...] made her first solo flight on 1 August 1909, in a glider built by her brother Cleve." and "Quest for Flight: John J. Montgomery and the Dawn of Aviation in the West" By Gary B. Fogel, Craig S. Harwood (2012) "Shaffer worked closely with his younger sister Geneve in the design and ... ited by the Smithsonian Institution as the first woman glider pilot in the United States" Elisa.rolle (talk) 08:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • (a) Those aren't the sources given above at the ends of ALT0 and ALT1
  • (b) Now that you've given them, they say she "made her first solo flight" and "the first woman glider pilot in the United States" -- those are not the claims of ALT0 and ALT1, which are "first woman in the world to sail in a flying machine", and " first glider pilot woman" (anywhere, presumably).
EEng 21:41, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
EEng: Before Amelia (2002) is the source for ALT0 together with the article paper of the 1909 that says she is the first "in the world". Since the article is before the flight, that is the reason for the probably. But many websites and also the Smithsonian claim she did actually make the ascension.Elisa.rolle (talk) 21:50, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
The link for Before Amelia doesn't work for me; please quote it. EEng 22:01, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
It's not a PD source, therefore I was told I cannot copy it. It starts with "Geneve Shaffer Parsons claimed to have flown an aeroplane, built by her brother [...] in 1909 [...] some five months later, Geneve made a ballon ascension" the book than discuss about the fact the newspaper article is before the flight, and that is the reason for my "probably" in the hook.Elisa.rolle (talk) 23:08, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Short quotes like this, for what we're doing, are fair use. I'm sorry, but which of these supports ALT0, "first woman in the world to sail in a flying machine"? Which supports ALT1, "first glider pilot woman"? The only thing I can see is

I've left out the skyscraper bit because, as in other cases, I'm not happy with the position of the source (a contemporary local paper) to make such a broad statement. EEng 23:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

ok for ALT2, but I have to say that I do not agree to scratch historical sources... the article about the skyscrapers was published by an accredited journalist, therefore, I assume, she did her job sourcing the fact. The fact she wrote it in 1934 is even more a proof that the claim is valid, since they are talking of fact they are living, and not of something they researched on a paper like we do. Elisa.rolle (talk) 23:40, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Well, the evaluation of sources is far more subtle than you make it out to be, but as long as you're willing to go with ALT2 we don't need to discuss that now. EEng 23:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


  • ... that the popular online game slither.io was originally created as a way for its developer, Steve Howse, to make money? Source: Wall Street Journal
    • ALT1:... that the online game slither.io was the most Googled game in the United States in 2016? Source: Time magazine
  • Comment: QPQ to be done later

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk) and Wumbolo (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 16:26, 13 August 2017 (UTC).

Nigel Williams (conservator)

Source 1, The Independent (1992): "In 1968 Williams was chosen to head a small team of conservators charged with the conservation or, in some cases, re-conservation of the finds from the Sutton Hoo ship burial. ... The piece de resistance of this stage of his career was the dismantling of the 1940s restoration (by Herbert Maryon) of the Sutton Hoo helmet and the restoration to a new and altogether more believable shape"

Source 2, Google Arts & Culture: Sutton Hoo helmet is "the most iconic object" from "[o]ne of the most spectacular archaeological discoveries ever made"

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 08:44, 13 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Usernameunique, I checked WP:MOSQUOTE, but it was silent about this. I typically fall back to The Chicago Manual of Style, which itself generally prefers to alter such capitalization without comment depending on the needs/structure of the sentence (lower to cap or vice versa, so "one" would be fine sans brackets), but preferences may be different in British publishing, and this is a British topic. The usage should be consistent across article and hook. I do have to question a hook fact: if Williams took the Sutton Hoo helmet apart and reassembled it over eighteen months in 1970–1971, and he was born in 1944, then he couldn't have been 23 years old when he worked on it. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:06, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks BlueMoonset, appreciate the input. I've put the "one" (lower case 'o') outside of the quotation to keep it consistent with the article, where the 'o' is bracketed. You are correct that Williams was slightly older when he worked on the helmet, and indeed aged a year while doing so. However, according to the source, he was "tasked" with its reconstruction earlier, in 1968. This distinction also emphasizes the point of the hook more-so than would referring to him as 25 when he started work on it; the point is that he was given and trusted with a huge responsibility when only 23. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Usernameunique, I take your point about "tasked". However, I've moved the beginning of the quote back to where it was: you're using "one" from the title of the Google article, so you can't simply move the quotation mark over to exclude that word when it's in the original. The two options are '"one of ...' or '"[o]ne of ...'; please pick either. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • BlueMoonset, in that case let's go with "[o]ne," both for your point about consistency and just to be on the safe side. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 00:11, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 14[edit]


  • ... that Navayana is a modern Buddhist movement that abandons precepts such as meditation and enlightenment? Source: Damien Keown; Charles S. Prebish (2013). Encyclopedia of Buddhism. Routledge. p. 25. ISBN 978-1-136-98588-1; Quote: "Gone, for instance, were the doctrines of karma and rebirth, the traditional emphasis on renunciation of the world, the practice of meditation, and the experience of enlightenment.
    • ALT1:... that Navayana Buddhist movement radically reinterprets what the Buddha taught?Source: Bruce Rich (2008). To Uphold the World. Penguin Books. p. 204. ISBN 978-0-670-99946-0; Quote: "Ambedkar's interpretation of Buddhism was a radical one; it took a revisionist approach to a number of widely accepted traditional Buddhist teachings"

5x expanded by Ms Sarah Welch (talk) and JimRenge (talk). Nominated by Ms Sarah Welch (talk) at 23:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Ida Hinman

Ida Hinman, 1895
Ida Hinman, 1895
  • ... that The Washington sketch book, guidebook and social life manual, was one of the few Washington, D.C. guidebooks written by a woman, Ida Hinman at the end of the 19th century? Source: Steinhauer, Jason. "The Indians’ Capital City: Native Histories of Washington, D.C." ([99])
    • ALT1:... that Ida Hinman, author of The Washington sketch book, was a neighbor of Orion Clemens, the first and only Secretary of Nevada Territory and Mark Twain's brother? Source: January 3, 1904. Detroit Free Press from Detroit, Michigan ([100])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 11:47, 14 August 2017 (UTC).

Hannah Amelia Wright

  • ... that Hannah Amelia Wright, the first woman to be appointed doctor in a State asylum, was the daughter of Charles Cushing Wright, among the founders of the National Academy of Design? Source: A woman of the century; fourteen hundred-seventy biographical sketches accompanied by portraits of leading American women in all walks of life (1983) ([101]) and Charles Cushing Wright (1796-1854) ([102])
    • ALT1:... that Hannah Amelia Wright, the first woman to be appointed doctor in a State asylum, was one of the organizers of the Society for Promoting the Welfare of the Insane, chartered in 1882? Source: A woman of the century; fourteen hundred-seventy biographical sketches accompanied by portraits of leading American women in all walks of life (1983) ([103])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 09:27, 14 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 15[edit]

Disney's Herbie: Fully Loaded

  • ... that one reviewer thought that voice samples from Lindsey Lohan would have "pepped things up" for the video game Herbie: Fully Loaded? Source: "Although the sound effects and music are sufficient, there's no personality to them. Including a few Lindsay Lohan voice samples would have gone a long way toward pepping things up." ([104])

Created by Nomader (talk). Self-nominated at 16:59, 15 August 2017 (UTC).

The Jewish Confederates

  • ... that The Jewish Confederates has been both praised and criticized for its coverage about Jews who supported the Confederate States of America? Source: AJH, FHQ
    • ALT1:... that thousands of Jews fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Zigzig20s (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 15:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC).

Thubten Kunphela

Kunphela in Kalimpong
Kunphela in Kalimpong
  • ... that Kunphela, a favorite personal attendant of the 13th Dalai Lama, was a co-founder of the Tibet Improvement Party, a political party based in Kalimpong, India with the goal of restructuring the Tibetan society by revolution? Source: Goldstein (1989), p.151: "Kumbela became much closer to the Dalai Lama than attendants usually did.""He is, next to the Dalai Lama, undoubtedly the most powerful person in Tibet." p.450: "... sought not simply a change in regents, but the 'liberation of Tibet from the existing tyrannical Government' and the revolutionary restructuring of the Tibetan government and society."
    • ALT1:... that Kunphela, the most powerful person in Tibet next to the 13th Dalai Lama in early 1930s, later co-founded a political party with the goal of "liberation of Tibet from the existing tyrannical Government"? Source: Same as above.

Created by Esiymbro (talk). Self-nominated at 13:59, 15 August 2017 (UTC).

  • No review yet as I have fewer than 5 DYK nominations ... Actually this is my first! Esiymbro (talk) 14:29, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Jacqueline Noel

Almond Roca
Almond Roca
  • ... that Jacqueline Noel, Tacoma city librarian in the 1920s, named the Almond Roca candy from the Spanish word roca (rock in English)? Source: Simpson, J.M. "A candied history" ([105] Pleased that the almond and chocolate coating made the candy less messy, Brown handed out samples to Tacoma's residents, including Tacoma Public Library librarian Jacqueline Noel. She named it Almond Roca. Company lore holds that Noel chose the name because of the candy's hard crunch that was somewhat rock-like. At the time, many almonds were imported from Spain, and "roca" is the Spanish word for rock.)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 10:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC).


  • ... that Xtoro likes dropping acid and giving bad trips to its enemies? Source: "The compound exhibits optimal efficacy in slightly acidic environments (pH 5.0–6.0), under which other fluoroquinolones lose activity." (McKeage, Kate (2015). "Finafloxacin: First Global Approval". Drugs. 75: 687–693. doi:10.1007/s40265-015-0384-z.)
    • ALT1:... that bacteria shouldn't drop acid while taking finafloxacin? Source: "The compound exhibits optimal efficacy in slightly acidic environments (pH 5.0–6.0), under which other fluoroquinolones lose activity." (McKeage, Kate (2015). "Finafloxacin: First Global Approval". Drugs. 75: 687–693. doi:10.1007/s40265-015-0384-z.)
    • ALT2:... that finafloxacin is a new fluoroquinolone antibiotic that works best with acid? Source: "The compound exhibits optimal efficacy in slightly acidic environments (pH 5.0–6.0), under which other fluoroquinolones lose activity." (McKeage, Kate (2015). "Finafloxacin: First Global Approval". Drugs. 75: 687–693. doi:10.1007/s40265-015-0384-z.)
  • Comment: ALT0-1 are more silly. ALT2 is more serious. All are referencing the same thing. I still have <5 DYK credits.

5x expanded by Biochemistry&Love (talk). Self-nominated at 01:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC).

Lenalee Lee

  • ... that D.Gray-man manga character Lenalee Lee is based on the author's ideal type of girl...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that D.Gray-man manga character Lenalee Lee's hairstyle was heavily debated between her author, Katsura Hoshino, and the editor ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Tintor2 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 16[edit]

Edith Kawelohea McKinzie

  • ... that Edith Kawelohea McKinzie documented the genealogy of the chiefs of Kahoolawe, indexed early 19th-century Hawaiian-language newspapers, and in 2004 was named a Living Treasure of Hawai'i for her contributions to Hawaiian culture?

Created by Alanna the Brave (talk). Self-nominated at 23:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Sarah Mundell Crane

  • ... that 19th century concert singer Sarah Mundell Crane was the mother of silent movie actor Harry Ogden Crane? Source: Monday, January 5, 1914, The Cincinnati Enquirer ([106])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 21:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Oregon black exclusion laws

Oregon territory as of 1903
Oregon territory as of 1903
  • ... that the only state of the Union to ban black settlers was Oregon? Source: Eighth paragraph of the Portland State University / Oregon Historical Society Oregon Encyclopedia website writes, "Oregon thus became the only free state admitted to the Union with an exclusion clause in its constitution."
    • ALT1:... that in 1844, Oregon laws banned slavery, but also banned all black settlers? Source: Basically the entire article is a sourced version of this statement.

Created by Owlsmcgee (talk). Nominated by Owlsmcgee (talk) at 19:58, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Enver Baig

Created/expanded by Sahara4u (talk). Self-nominated at 16:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Kate Brousseau

  • ... that Kate Brousseau, chair of the Psychology Department at Mills College, was valedictorian of the first class graduating from University of California, Los Angeles, in 1884? Source: Anderson, Keith (2015). The Los Angeles State Normal School, UCLA's Forgotten Past: 1881-1919. Lulu.com. p. 79 ([107])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 12:46, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Oshkosh Alpha

  • ... that ... the Oshkosh Alpha's contract with US Marine Corp Systems Command was discontinued in less than three months after it was publicly announced on February 28, 2007?
    • ALT1:... that ... the Oshkosh Alpha's ShieldAll armor was made back in 2001 using research conducted for NASCAR?

Created by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 14:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 17[edit]

Plated (meal kits)

Plated logo
Plated logo
  • ... that meal kit delivery service Plated earned a deal with one of the sharks on Shark Tank that fell through before getting a deal with another?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 03:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC).

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