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October 17[edit]

DLA Piper[edit]

Ref number 49 is wrong and "in red ink" - I did not do this ref. Please fix if able (talk) 00:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done [1] (fixed wrong ref, corrected myself in following edit) It just needed the {{cite web}} template to be filled in to include the title of the page (as well as date, website, etc.) There is usually a link in the red text which you can follow, which tells you how to fix the problem. Dairy {talk} 00:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

A patrolled article is still not indexed by Google?[edit]

I recently created an article (Yasodara Córdova). I asked for revision here last Oct 11, and it was reviewed by two experienced reviewers. I see that now when googling for the name, Google creates the snippet box in the right. However, it seems it still doesn't show the Wikipedia article as part of the results: I thought after patrolling, the article is indexed, but maybe I'm not understanding the rules correctly. Could someone explain me what's going on? Thanks! Samer.hc (talk) 01:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Samer.hc, hope you're well. Wikipedia does not control Google search results. Google takes some time to index newly created pages. For your benefit, I've manually submitted the article page to Google for it to index the same. It'll be indexed in around a week more or so. If there is any further query, feel free to ask away. Warmly. Lourdes 03:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Re-ping Samer.hc.Lourdes 03:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
As far as I can see, Yasodara Córdova is still awaiting patrol through the new page patrol process (along with about 13 thousand other pages), and hence has a NOINDEX tag which will stop Google indexing it. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:47, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. I have reviewed the article. Lourdes 06:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks so much, what a efficiency! It is already showing in the results :) Samer.hc (talk) 11:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Von Joshua baseball player[edit]

Correction on his college. He did not go to Chabot....he went to Laney College and signed out of there. Then he went to Cal State Haywood for 1 yr.

After his baseball career he coached in the Dodgers minor league system for 10yrs. From there he coached with the Chicago White Sox for 10yrs. Within those 10yrs he coached in the majors for 4yrs. Making across the board records in 2000. From the White Sox he was the hitting coordinator for the Toronto Blue Jays for 1 1/2 yrs. From there he went on to coach with the Chicago Cubs for 9yrs. In those 9yrs he was the interim hitting coach for 6 months in the major league until Rudy Jaramillo. From there he went back to the Iowa Cubs AAA club for another year.

In 2014 he went to Taiwan as their hitting coach and was also the manager for the EDA Rhino’s. The team won last years Championship (for the CPBL). The team was sold and is now called the Fubon Gaurdians where he is still coaching . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjoshua39 (talkcontribs) 02:11, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jjoshua39: If you think there are errors in the Von Joshua article, you should detail them on the article's talk page, so that other editors can review the situation. This page (though, like us, it's an open Wiki) supports some of your contentions, but the coaching details don't exactly match. Joshua's Retrosheet page, however, lists no coaching jobs other than those in the Cubs organization (with a shorter tenure and different dates). Deor (talk) 19:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Counter-Vandalism Question[edit]

While browsing the Recent Changes, I noticed that people where vandalizing articles and then fixing them on the same account. This makes it harder for us Counter-Vandalism Unit members to monitor wikipedia because of the constant flow of spam do to this. Is this considered as Disruptive editing? SwagGangster 02:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi SwagGangster, when I'm looking at recent changes and notice that. I use the template test edits first. It allows you to give a warning to the user so they know someone is looking at them while still assuming good faith (unless they are constantly doing it). Then if it continues you can call it disruptive. NZFC(talk) 02:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

TCM template?[edit]

Resolved: 11:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

I thought there was a template for TCM for including in 'See also' section, as with {{IMDb}}; but, {{TCM}} is not it. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 02:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

True that. I couldn't find a TCM template either. You'll have to currently make do with physically embedding the details in any article for now. Lourdes 03:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
That's what I did (here). (Btw, I meant to say 'External links' section). —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 04:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Wow. That was good work. I've redirected {{TCM}} to this template. Hope that helps. Lourdes 08:35, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I clicked on the (previously) red link and got the "this category does not exist" page and clicked on the "search for similar names" option (or something to that effect), and there it was. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Don't forget to add the TCM data for films and for people to the corresponding Wikidata entry. --RAN (talk) 17:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Error saving data to server: Empty server response.[edit]

Always get an error when saving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8a0:712c:d801:8157:e85f:841d:2c28 (talkcontribs) 03:23, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

Well, hello! You managed to save this question here on the Help Desk. If your question relates to not being able to create new articles on Wikipedia, please note that to create pages directly in the Wikipedia article mainspace, you must be a logged in user with an account that must be at least 4 days (96 hours) old, and you must have made more than ten edits across Wikipedia. You can read up on how to create your first article for more details. If your query relates to something technical not connected to Wikipedia, the best place to ask the same is at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing and not here. But please feel free to ask for more clarification here itself on the Help Desk about how to edit Wikipedia. Cheers. Lourdes 03:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Page has been removed from Wikipedia[edit]

Hi there

Please advise why the page on Nicole Monique Bierbach or Nicole Bierbach (Namibia) has been removed from Wikipedia?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:26, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Nicole Monique Bierbach was one of many articles created by an editor with what turned out to be a large range of problems, as explained at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive941#User:Sander v. Ginkel. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Federal employees[edit]

Are congress members required to file taxes annually or differently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:403:C100:DFB1:34DC:ACAC:FAFA:7A18 (talk) 17:28, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

This notice board is for asking questions about Wikipedia and its policies, editing practices, procedures, tools, etc. You may want to ask your question at the Reference Desk, which is for general factual questions such as this and has a large number of very helpful and knowledgeable folks ready to assist. Hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:53, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Advanced searching: all people with certain initials?[edit]

I'm trying to find a way to search for all people, among those with Wikipedia articles, with a given set of initials. Let's say JW (as in Jimmy Wales) for example. I've already checked JW (disambiguation), and the person I'm looking for isn't listed there. I'm willing to sift through false positives, and to use a search that would exclude those with middle names (e.g., Jimmy Donal Wales). Any ideas? The regular expression searcher seemed positive, but I wasn't sure how to form the expression. --BDD (talk) 20:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@BDD: The search box has an "intitle" option to search article titles only, and it accepts regular expressions. This search may be close to what you are looking for. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks John, this is definitely along the lines of what I'm looking for. But it only seems to be picking up titles or redirects with the initials themselves (e.g., J. W. Backus, J. W. Hallahan Catholic Girls High School). Apologies if I didn't explain my query clearly, but what I'm looking for is a search that would give me Jimmy Wales, John Wilson, etc. --BDD (talk) 20:55, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@BDD: Hmm, that's too hard for the search box. The tool you linked can do it. This search looks for a "J" at the start of a word, followed, somewhere afterwards, by a space and a "W". Or this search which looks for a "J" at the start of a word, and "W" at the start of the next word. Note that I switched to the Latin Wikipedia so that these searches only take a second or two. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:21, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, that did the trick! --BDD (talk) 21:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Here's a variation that finds titles that begin with a J and and end with a word that starts with a W [[2]] That way you can ignore middle names, Mduvekot (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Account[edit]

How long does it usually take to get your wikipedia account approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

There is no approval process because this is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. Have you created an account? You will be able to edit straight away, but to create new articles you will need to wait four days and have made at least ten edits using your new account. There are some semi-protected pages which you will not be able to edit until your account is 30 days old and you have made 500 edits, but there are not very many such pages. I would advise you not to make frivolous edits. Please remember that this is intended to be a serious encyclopaedia. Dbfirs 21:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Ukranian text appearing as wikilink[edit]

When editing with the visual editor, if I click on the wikilink for panacea (medicine), the text that appears below the link (the page preview) is in Ukranian - міфологічний універсальний засіб від усіх хвороб, which translates to 'a mythological universal remedy for all diseases'. After clicking around a bit, I found that the text is coming from this wikidata entry. How do I change this, or who do I tell? Leschnei (talk) 23:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

You are right that some features display English descriptions from Wikidata. You can reach the right Wikidata page by clicking "Wikidata item" under "Tools" in the left pane of the desktop version of the article. Your account works at Wikidata. Click "edit" at the pencil icon at the top right of the description to edit it. Wikidata uses database fields so it's edited a little differently from Wikipedia but just look for the right field to edit. The description sounded appropriate but just had the wrong language so I have moved it to Ukrainian.[3] There is no English description now but you can easily add one. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks much. I'm just beginning to figure out Wikidata and your explanation help. Leschnei (talk) 11:29, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
See wikidata:Help:Description for guidelines. wikidata:Help:Description#Capitalization says: "Descriptions begin with a lowercase letter except when uppercase would normally be required or expected." PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

October 18[edit]

how do I add my artist profile on wikipedia[edit]

how do I add my artist profile on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akwofiegh (talkcontribs) 03:12, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

You don't. This is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia full of articles about notable topics written by impartial third parties; not Myspace or Facebook. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:31, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

I have added a file -

Olive Christiana Middleton (née Lupton) c.1914

- and it is FAR TOO BIG!

Please minimise if able Thankyou139.216.210.155 (talk) 03:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi IP user, I have fixed if for you. You had missed the |150px after the |thumb, see MOS:IMGSIZE NZFC(talk) 05:34, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
This is a little nit picky, but just FYI NZFC, it's generally preferred to use an upright scaling factor for images rather than px when possible. GMGtalk 12:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks GMG, that is good to know. Will keep that in mind in future. NZFC(talk) 20:14, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Von Joshua[edit]

Correction on Von Joshua baseball player..He went to Laney College, and signed out of there . From there he went to Cal State Haywood for another year.

After his baseball career as a player ended, he went on to coach in the LA Dodgers minor league system for 10years as their hitting coach. From there he went on as the hitting coach for the Chicago White Sox minor league system for 10yrs. The last 4 years with the Chicago White Sox he coached in the major league system, where in the year 2000 they made records across the board. After the White Sox he was the hitting coordinator for the Toronto Blue Jays for 1 1/2 years. After leaving the Blue Jays he went on as the hitting coach for the Chicago Cubs AA and AAA teams. In 2009 he was the major league interim hitting coach replacing Gerald Perry . In 2010 he went back as the Chicago Cubs AAA Iowa Cubs hitting coach.

In 2014 he went on to coach for CPBL league in Taiwan. He was the hitting coach and manager for the EDA Rhinos. In 2016 the Rhinos won the CPBL Championship. In 2017 the Rhinos were sold and now called the Fubon Guardians were he is still presently working. Baseball has been his career for 50 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjoshua39 (talkcontribs) 09:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Jjoshua39: as you were told a few days ago, you need to bring this up on the article's talk page, not here. Rojomoke (talk) 10:31, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
[Edit conflict] Jjoshua39, the appropriate place to raise concerns is on the Talk page of the article in question: you have already left a cryptic message there, whose import is unclear. You need to specify there exactly which pieces of text you think should be changed, what you think each should be changed to, and provide supporting references to Reliable Sources for all such changes. Other editors may wish to discuss your proposals, but if (after a few days) no-one objects to any given change you are free to be bold and make it provided that you provide an inline citation for each changed piece of information, making sure that your sources are not less reliable that any currently used for what you think is incorrect. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 10:32, 18 October 2017 (UTC)


Anthropolog is a study of human being with Respect time and space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wensung porbsa (talkcontribs) 12:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Wensung porbsa: Hello, do you have a question about how to edit Wikipedia? Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:21, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Culture-:Culture is a whole way of life. It lncluds ideas,values,believs,knowleadge art etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wensung porbsa (talkcontribs) 12:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Culture-:Culture is a whole way of life. It lncluds ideas,values,believs,knowleadge art etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wensung porbsa (talkcontribs) 12:51, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Wensung porbsa: Apparently you do not have a question. Please don't post at this page other than to ask a question about how to edit Wikipedia. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:03, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

in-article disambiguation template at the top of the page[edit]

Greetings, How does one fix an opening disambiguation (Template:There really should be a disambiguation page) template? I have tried to add disambiguation to the searchterm result "cybercell", as all across India, cybercell is known as a term referring to cybercrime investigators (Police Force of India), but wikipedia returns only one article, about E-Coli.

That looks about right, having a go. Thank You126.209.0.225 (talk) 19:24, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hatnotes should link to existing articles and those articles should have content about the topic. I have fixed it.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Question about time for edits to be reviewed?[edit]


I submitted an edit to add an organization and its description, following closely the guidelines about sources and conflict of interest. I did this a few months ago, but I still have not received answer or seen it published or deleted. How long do these requests usually take?


Best, Camila

PS. This is the page: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbustos29 (talkcontribs) 19:50, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately you can wait for many months and years before it is created. It depends on interest of editors to this topic. You can try to create a draft yourself. Ruslik_Zero 20:14, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Irritating notices[edit]

OK. there are pages A,B,C,D and Z and Template Q and I watch page Z. Template Q is already on pages A, B, C, and D. I add Z to template Q. When someone edits page A and adds anything, I get the notice that a link was made page A to Z, even though the changes to A have nothing to do with page Z. Is there any way that I can keep from getting the same notice when pages B, C, and D next change *other* than to stop watching Z?Naraht (talk) 23:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Preferences → Notifications.....Page link .--Moxy (talk) 00:37, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
You didn't post a real example so I cannot check who created "Z" but it sounds like you describe the "Page link" feature at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo which is supposed to notify you about links to pages you created and not pages you watch. You can disable the feature completely. I don't think you can limit the feature to omit links via templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:42, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
'Z' in this case is Theta Sigma Upsilon, which as was pointed out, I did create. So no way to keep getting notices for pages that I created last week while disabling it for those I created years ago. Hmm. I think a trip to WP:VPI will be in my future, as soon as I figure out what...Naraht (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

October 19[edit]

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

Ref number 89 is a book - please put in the IBSN number - Thanks very much (talk) 01:29, 19 October 2017 (UTC)I tried and FAILD whien I added in eth IBSN number - it is in red. I am so orry. Please fix if able. Thanks (talk) 03:04, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi IP, I see you added the reference to the book yourself when you did edit. Why didn't you add the ISBN yourself when you added the reference? Please see WP:CITEHOW for how to add it in. NZFC(talk) 02:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

I tried and FAILED when I added in the IBSN number for ref number 89 - it is now in red. I am sorry. Please fix if able. Thanks (talk) 03:04, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi again IP, problem is you are calling it IBSN, it is ISBN and to reference it you go |isbn= and then the number. The next problem is you were trying to put two in, ISBN-10 and ISBN-13. I have put the ISBN-13 in for you and corrected the error. NZFC(talk) 03:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

help me sir[edit]

Hii Jimbo sir sorry to disturb, Im your Biggest fan, My name is Naman Mishra, and I am from Shahdol Madhya Pradesh India, my account has been closed in sockpuppet, account this Nm52664 saying that you are a sockpuppet, but I have no other The other does not run the account, even if I did not make any mistake, my account was closed, saying that your account meets it I do not run another account Please explain to someone I'm very upset Or you help me. But this not my account virajmishra please sir please help me😭😭 please unblock my account, i can't login and don't understand your any administrator.. block my ip address again and again... please You help me now, please sir Even if I did not make any mistake, I was blocked, and neither did I run another account besides Nm52664 please help please Tell me in detail. virajmishra this is not my account but your administrator saying this your account Sir, Sir, I did not know the rules of Wikipedia before, it was a crime to create a second account in Wikipedia. I thought that Facebook would be as it is, but now everyone knows once, unblock my this account Nm52664. Please sir. And give me a one chance. Please (talk) 06:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Are you claiming that another person with your birth name edits from your IP address? Dbfirs 08:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Searching more accurately[edit]

Hello, I'm to get an overview for mentions of a particular compound on various Wikipedia articles. However, there are over 600 results and I only want the most relevant 20 or so. Is there some way, I could alter my search settings so that the articles that mention my search buzzwords most frequently are prioritised. So in a way, a quantitative search, not just a qualitative one of your platform. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:07, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

The search feature already tries to prioritise the results. I don't know whether number of mentions is a factor. See Help:Searching and mw:Help:CirrusSearch for features. A regular expression could be used to search for pages with multiple occurrences, e.g. geraniol insource:/[Gg]eraniol.*[Gg]eraniol/ for at least two "Geraniol" or "geraniol". You can also try to use the external with in the search field. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

change the name of article[edit]


I can't change the name of this article : "Draft:Davidsmithite" it must be "Davidsmithite" also the link must be changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohmemam (talkcontribs) 10:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Ohmemam: The name looks the same to me. On the assumption that what you wish is to remove the 'Draft' from the title, when you think the article is ready for mainspace, place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft. It will then be submitted for review. For future reference, changing the name is done by 'moving' the page via the 'more' tab at the top of the page. This will be available to you after your account has made 10 valid edits. Please do not make similar requests for help in multiple locations, and please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Submission Declined[edit]

Dear all,

We have submitted a page to Wiki for Paula Reid, Adventurer. and recieved this message:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

How do we know we parts of the page need referencing?

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clare Walker 74 (talkcontribs) 12:03, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Clare Walker 74, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that she meets the notability guidelines. It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, as defined in the link, or they will be deleted. Unreferenced claims can be removed. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to her, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media, Wikipedia and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what she claims or interviewing her. References should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
Who is "we"? If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it. See also guidance for editors with conflicts of interest. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:16, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Article directly referencing the talk page.[edit]

Peter Gunn (song) states in the lede: "For a brief analysis of Henry Mancini's original soundtrack recording see the Talk Page."

Is this acceptable behaviour and use of the talk page? I would have thought that if it's relevant info it should be in the article, and if not relevant, then not mentioned in the article - certainly not the lede (and possibly not on the talk page either). Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:35, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree completely and have removed that from the lede. I can't come up with any situation where there should be a link on a mainspace page to a talkspace page. I'm not sure if there is any way to look for these issues, (maybe a quarry query?)Naraht (talk) 15:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Maintenance templates like {{Multiple issues}} link to the talk page. Mduvekot (talk) 15:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
True, but a template is not part of the article per se. Thanks for the assist here. Chaheel Riens (talk) 19:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Sources for a new article ?[edit]


I've created a new article, it's been years since I've done that.

Here it isçois_D%27Haene

Now I need to provide sources. There are plenty of sources of course, since he's won many competition. Do I just need to link a newspaper article stating that he won and that would be enough ?

Also, how can I link it to the french article ?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chocapic (talkcontribs) 16:15, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Chocapic. The point of a reference is so that a reader can in principle check that what the Wikipedia article says is correct (and hasn't been inserted by mistake, for example, or vandalised since). To that end, what is needed is proper bibliographic information: title, date, author (if available), where it was published etc. A link is a convenience, not an essential part of the reference. There are many ways of doing references: I prefer to use the reference templates such as {{cite news}}, but these are not compulsory. I recommend you read referencing for beginners. You possibly ought to read NSPORT as well, and if it is a long time since you created a page, I suggest having a look at your first article too, since the requirements are rather tighter than they used to be. As for linking it, pick "Add links" in the side bar, and that will take you to the Wikidata entry (which is how interlanguage links are mostly handled now). --ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Is a non-profit website a reputable source?[edit]


Here is the page I want help with:

I am working for a non-profit environmental group called Clean Water Action/Clean Water Fund. The organization has done terribly with marketing and I am taking on a bit of work to improve this -- to improve information available about our group and what kind of work we do. I would like to expand the Clean Water Action wikipedia page and eventually create a Clean Water Fund wikipedia page.

Since I work for the group in question, I want to be very careful about providing good sources and citations for any edits that I make. So my first question is: is the Clean Water Action official webpage a reputable source?

Example: Wikipedia says that Clean Water Action is an "advocacy" group. The most important work we do is lobbying so I wanted to expand the page to say that Clean Water Action is an "advocacy and lobby" group. To source this would I be able so cite staff member profiles from the Clean Water Action website that say 'this staff member works on x,y,z, and lobbying'?

Many thanks for your helpful feedback!

Superpositionn (talk) 19:34, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

You need to declare your WP:Paid status on your user page, and perhaps you are not the best person to make the edit because you have a WP:Conflict of interest. Member profiles are not the most reliable of sources. You need to find an independent WP:Reliable source to back up your statement. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia that reports what other reliable sources have written about organisations. It may not be used to improve marketing, and is not really interested in what an organisation says about itself. However, if you can find somewhere that states that lobbying is included in the organisation's aims, then we could probably add that fact. Dbfirs 21:08, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Please don't do this, Superpositionn. Wikipedia may not be used for promotion. If we have an article on your organisation, you will have no control whatever over its content, and will be strongly discouraged from editing it directly; and the content will probably not be in any way related to what you say or want to say about your organisation, but based solely on what people unconnected with you have chosen to publish about you. Please do your marketing work elsewhere. --ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Federal Court Judge Okla Jones Tobacco ruling against Tobacco Industry[edit]

In his decision, the judge, Okla B. Jones 2d of the United States Eastern District of Louisiana, has not only created the possibility for the largest class action in history, but has also exposed the tobacco companies to their most formidable legal challenge yet. So far, they have never had to pay any money penalties in court.

The ruling opens the tobacco companies to a years-long legal discovery process that would seek documents and other evidence on whether the tobacco industry has known that cigarette smoking is addictive and concealed that knowledge.

"The decision poses a greater threat to the tobacco industry than any prior lawsuit," said Matthew L. Myers, counsel to the Coalition on Smoking or Health, a Washington-based group composed of the American Cancer Society, the American Heart Association and the American Lung Association.

He added, "There is the potential for a staggering punitive damage award in this case, which has the potential for changing the way the tobacco industry does business for all time."

In his ruling, Judge Jones defined the class as being composed of "all nicotine-dependent persons in the United States" and its territories and possessions "who have purchased and smoked cigarettes manufactured by the defendants," as well as their estates and their spouses, children, relatives, "significant others" and their "heirs or survivors."

Please make mentioned of this significant decision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:43C3:9F00:BC82:519F:2D64:72B0 (talk) 20:29, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello. The place to discuss this is on the talk page of the relevant article; alternatively, since you have found what sounds to be a reliable source, you could consider being BOLD and editing the article yourself. Please note that Wikipedia articles must never advance arguments or conclusions, unless they are summarising the argument or conclusion of a reliable published source. So an article could report on the case and the decision, and quote Myers' prediction (with an appropriate reference); but it must not speculate in Wikipedia's voice about the possibility of the largest class action in history. --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
I see that the source cited above is dated 1995. This is not a new development. Maproom (talk) 09:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Waqar Zaka page[edit]


I am trying to help Waqar Zaka as his page is locked by someone. Most of his info is incorrect. Kindly please unlock his page so he can update correct info. People can search him and get to know him with correct info about him . Inspire youth of Pakistan.

Thank you

Sohail khan — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

The page is semi-protected, so you will need to suggest changes on the talk page of the article. It will not be "unlocked" because people with a WP:Conflict of interest have been editing the article. Please state clearly which information is incorrect, and provide a reference to the correct information. Dbfirs 20:56, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Please understand, Sohail Khan, that Waqar Zaka is not "his page": it is Wikipedia's article about him, and he and his associates are strongly discouraged from editing it directly. The article should be neutral, and based on what people who have no connection with Zaka have published about him. Looking at the names of the references in it, most of them appear to be fro interviews, i.e. based on what he says about himself. Wikipedia is not interested in what he says about himself, but only in what independent sources say about him. Please see WP:V. --23:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Problem with infobox dates[edit]

Can someone point out to me how to set the birth/death dates properly, see Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 23:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi prokaryotes, see this edit [5] here. You had left in birth age which wasn't needed and then in the death you hadn't told it when he was born. NZFC(talk) 00:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Can you correct it? Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 00:43, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Okay i see you corrected it almost at the same time when I tried something out. Thank you NZ Footballs Conscience prokaryotes (talk) 00:46, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Oswald Birley[edit]

The pictures/portraits on this page are a little too big. Please make them a little smaller if possible. Thanks (talk) 23:56, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi @, I have fixed the image size for you with this edit [6]. NZFC(talk) 00:43, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

October 20[edit]

Problem with bot[edit]

A bot tagged a image here now after the bot resized the image, considers it not free, and states it will be deleted because it is not used in an article. However, the image is still used in article space, and it is unclear why after resize it should be suddenly unfree.... prokaryotes (talk) 00:12, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

It's not saying the current version will be deleted: only the previous version, as that is not being used in any article. Adam9007 (talk) 00:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Oh yeah, just noticed this, a bit confusing. prokaryotes (talk) 00:25, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Prokaryotes, I've reverted the bot. In cases like this, where the text itself is the only copyrightable element (it's just a lot of characters, not some original image), the resolution doesn't matter for copyright purposes; if reduction is necessary, the proper approach is cropping to get rid of some of the text. Nyttend (talk) 05:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Maproom and Prokaryotes: Well, all that is all nice and fun, but if the author is Arthur Surridge Hunt as claimed by the file info, he died in 1934 (and 2017 > 1934 + 70, the UK being a 70years post mortem autoris country). Putting aside the original copyright of whoever wrote the fragment in ancient Greek (...) it would mean the file itself is free, cropping or not. This seems to be what the original complaint was about.
My money is that for some reason the image was tagged as non-free (I am not going to bother looking at the page history to know what happened) and then a bot decided that its resolution should be reduced (not that the bot decided on its own to reduce resolution and un-free the image). TigraanClick here to contact me 11:42, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Tigraan, the someone was Prokaryotes; here is the original revision of the page, as it was when Prokaryotes uploaded it. Nyttend (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • However, this is a page from a compilation first published in 1941 and republished (and possibly re-edited) in 1959. Editors have a copyright in the collection as a whole (selection, composition, layout) and in any substantive ("creative") modifications. I think the assumption that there is no post-Hunt copyrightable material here is reasonable, but it is hard to prove. Ideally, we would find a work by Hunt himself that includes this passage. -Arch dude (talk) 15:23, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Ugh. Well, that serves me well for trying to touch a copyright issue. Feel free to revert me, I will leave that to wiser people. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I'm not competent to do it, but it would be better to find Hunt's original of this, which is somewhere in the 14 volumes of Oxyrhynchus Papyri that he and a co-author published in 1904, and reference it directly. Those are out of copyright and are available on-line. In my opinion there is no value in using an image of a page of a 1959 book (or even of a 1904 book) that contains only typecast English words: a referenced quote is better. However, Hunt's work also contains some plates of the actual Papyri, so you may get lucky and find this particular Papyrus fragment there, and that would certainly be a good image for us. (Fun fact: "papyri" is the plural of "papyrus". the things you learn while editing the help desk). -Arch dude (talk) 16:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

James Martineau[edit]

If you are interested - there is a HUGE picture of James Martineau half way down on his page. Should it be made smaller? I cannot do this myself - Thanks (talk) 00:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Have done this edit. NZFC(talk) 02:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Gnostic Gospels[edit]

Why is the talk page of the category showing up in the category at Category:Gnostic Gospels. --RAN (talk) 01:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

  • This is a mess. The category talk page has a bunch of project templates. These templates are intended for use in article talk pages. Unfortunately, they are adding the talk pages including this one to categories. I'm not sure how (or if) this should be corrected. -Arch dude (talk) 03:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I deleted both pages. After waiting some minutes, I undeleted the category and then created the talk page anew with the same contents. It's fine at the moment; let's see if "fine" persists. Nyttend (talk) 11:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

How can I increase the size of Font .I cant read this size of font[edit]

How to Increase size of font. I cant read Wikipedia as font writing to small. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Advent59 (talkcontribs) 02:20, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

  • The font size is controlled by your browser. Look at your browser's help text, or do a web search : e.g., google for "chrome font size" or "firefox font size" or "ie font size". -Arch dude (talk) 03:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Advent59: Some users accidentally change their browser font size, e.g. by holding down Ctrl while scrolling on the mouse. In many browsers, Ctrl++ zooms in, Ctrl+- zooms out, and Ctrl+0 resets. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:12, 20 October 2017 (UTC) as a source[edit]

Is a reliable source for a Wikipedia article? This article has it as its only source, and I'm not sure if it counts. Thanks. Antrogh (talk) 03:02, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Questions about specific sources are answered at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. There is a search feature there. appears to be a perennial favourite, and the answer appears to be :"it depends". Perhaps you can look at some of the answers there, and if none of them are congruent with your example, ask your question there. -Arch dude (talk) 05:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Antrogh, who are Stan & Debbie Hauter, and who reviewed their work? Remember that this website, which publishes on a ton of sources, cannot be a specialist in all of them, and if they hired lots of specialists (as a professional encyclopedia's editorial board does), they'd be attributed. Lacking any evidence of the first, and having evidence against the second, we have to conclude that it's not a reliable source. Nyttend (talk) 11:53, 20 October 2017 (UTC)


The article Geisslerlieder, basically is about songs. However it is totally skewed without giving any references on most parts. Should this be nominated for AFD? prokaryotes (talk) 01:49, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

The article has general references - not specific ones - see Wikipedia:Inline citation. You could ask for in-line citations using Template:More footnotes. It would have been better to ask this at WP:Help Desk. Rmhermen (talk) 01:58, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
(1) Skewed in what way? (2) AfD's under what policy? It doesn't have, and should have, footnotes, but it does cite two apparently legitimate sources. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
BTW, these are not really questions for AN. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Okay. So far when i looked at the two cites they were about music in general. prokaryotes (talk) 12:58, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Cannot create a Wiki article[edit]

I would like to create a much needed Wiki article on dual citizenship in Lithuania. Here is the issue: I cannot in any way get passed "Before you create an article" page ( I've tried seemingly everything. I am familiar with referencing, notability, archiving and so on. While I do not know everything about Wiki, no "rookie course" is necessary as my German account has created 100+ Wiki articles.Istorijos.archyvas (talk) 08:42, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean by not being able to get past the page you linked? It's unclear what your specific problem is. Tell us what things you have tried so that we can understand what your problem is. - X201 (talk) 08:47, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Also: You haven't got a German account under that account name. You only need one account for all Wikipedia sites now, you can use your German one here.- X201 (talk) 08:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I would assume the problem Istorijos.archyvas is meeting is that they cannot create an article directly in the mainspace due to WP:ACTRIAL. If so, the simplest is probably to use through the Article wizard. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:51, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
    ... or use the German account as suggested by X201. Dbfirs 11:41, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
    @Dbfirs: I do not think you get WP:AUTOCONFIRMED by edits of other wikis. (At least, on fr-wp you don't get access levels based on en-wp edits; it seems unlikely to be different the other way around, and could not find documentation to the contrary.) Maybe a Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Confirmed would be accepted based on sister project edits, but I am not sure it is worth the hassle. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:48, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
    Oh, sorry. I've withdrawn my suggestion above. I'd assumed that a long-standing editor on the German Wikipedia would automatically have autoconfirmed status on the English, but it seems I'm wrong in my assumption. Apologies. Your solution is therefore most appropriate, or Istorijos.archyvas could just make a few more edits under that user name and wait until the 20th, or make ten edits here using the German account. Dbfirs 11:59, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Istorijos.archyvas: You can create articles in mainspace at the English Wikipedia when your account is four days old and has ten edits. You passed four days an hour ago and have seven edits so just make three more edits anywhere at PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Where are the instructions for making a notice appear whenever someone attempts to edit a page?[edit]

Where are the instructions for making a notice appear whenever someone attempts to edit a page?

What I want to do is to make it so that whenever someone tries to edit List of Subaru engines they get a big notice saying "Stop! If you are about to add information on the engine codes EZ30R, EZ36R, EJ20T or EJ20TT, STOP NOW! Those engines do not exist. Someone put some false information on the Internet and it has spread to multiple site that are too lazy to check the official Subaru sources."

--Guy Macon (talk) 10:02, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: You are looking for Wikipedia:Editnotice. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Guy Macon: That sounds to me like overkill. Would it not be better to create a new section ('Apocryphal engines', perhaps?) in the article detailing these facts (with an appropriate citation or two, of course)? {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 10:22, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Most likely there are no sources for "engine XXX does not exist". But this looks like a good case for a WP:COMMENT. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Alas, the false information gets inserted in random places in the article, so a comment is of little use.
I just tried putting in an edit notice[7][8] but it displayed when I read the page, not when I opened an edit window. Could someone take a look and see what I did wrong? Wikipedia:Editnotice#Other namespaces says "Editnotices for other namespaces and for user subpages can be created and edited only by admins and template editors" so I was expecting an error message about not having the proper permissions. -Guy Macon (talk) 18:32, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
It has to be created at Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Subaru engines. Only admins and template editors can edit there. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:38, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Information on how to request one is at WP:Editnotice.Naraht (talk) 20:03, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Problems with Wikilink[edit]

It looks like Minchee and the Portuguese article Minchi refer to the very same thing (a kind of meat dish in Macau) and I cannot Wikilink the Portuguese "Minchi" into the English "Minchee". Komitsuki (talk) 11:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

They had separate Wikidata items. I have merged them at Wikidata. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Komitsuki (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Added TemplateData for Template:Infobox_synthesizer, but no info is showing up in the visual editor.[edit]

I've added TemplateData for {{infobox synthesizer}} on the documentation page of the template, but after 12 hours there's still no template parameter information in the visual editor. Did I do something wrong? — Kakurady (talk) 12:54, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

"Break for editing"?[edit]

Excuse me, but what exactly is meant by that term here? And can one still give a vote on that issue?--Cleph (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

A section header created so that those who respond don't have to load *all* previous responses into their edit window. And definitely. And I'm not sure that VPP is the place for such a significant vote, but I'm not sure what is the place. I've already voted to Keep the RD.Naraht (talk) 13:47, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Best regards--Cleph (talk) 13:49, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
I will opine here that 'Break for editing' and 'Arbitrary break' and other such headings are the epitome of poorly chosen names. These section headings are included in watch lists and article histories but, in the context of these lists, give no indication of the discussion's subject. I urge anyone who is adding these kinds of section headings to choose a name that reflects the topic of the discussion.
Trappist the monk (talk) 15:40, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Album Art Help[edit]

I'm a beginner to editing and creating Wikipedia articles, so please go easy on me. When I insert the link to an album art image on the album info template, it doesn't appear. Why is that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justus et peccator (talkcontribs) 17:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

I presume you are referring to User:Justus et peccator/sandbox, where you are trying to link the infobox template to an external image. The Template:Infobox album gives instructions for the "cover" parameter: Upload a copy of the album cover (under fair use). The image will display in the infobox in its real size, capped by the value of the user's "Thumbnail size" parameter in his or her appearance preferences. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
  • As Eggishorn said, you must upload an image. But uploading an image is a daunting task for a new editor. Please do not get discouraged. We try to make it as easy as possible, but we also take copyright law very seriously, and this forces us to ask a bunch of complicated questions. -Arch dude (talk) 00:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Elijah Muhammad[edit]

The Muhammad Speaks Newspaper was the 1st. paper , not the Final Call.

Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:08, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Hide page HotCat categorisation in my watchlist[edit]

I already have page categorisation checked in my watchlist "hide" options. However, I continue to see categorisations made by the HotCat gadget. Is there any way to hide these as well? Thanks.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 20:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

@Cpt.a.haddock: "Hide categorization of pages" only affects category pages you are watching. It hides pages being added to or removed from the category. There is no feature to hide categories being added to a page you are watching. For the specific case of HotCat, I guess a user script could be written (not by me) to look for "using HotCat" in the edit summary and hide the edit after the watchlist has loaded. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)